I just drop my car with H&R springs...i read some where that the springs take time to drop at its full length? because to be honest before the drop my car had that big ass wheel gap on 15's and i lowered with the H&R springs with some 16's and i dont see the difference... that drop is not bad but im not sure if its gonna drop lower... i installed it two weeks ago with some GR2's....your help is very much appreciated. thanks