it's just heart breaking. noticed coolant was leaking out from the radiator, i open the cap, and a nightmare is found. :sad: car never overheated, the temp went slightly past the mid-way mark. so what now, a rebuild or buy a used engine? getting rid of the car is not an option, because with ~135,000 miles, i think i'd rather fix it, since the car is in good shape besides this major problem. any help would be appreciated in this time of darkness, thanks :barfy: