Good info! all though I'm running a 74 engine right now with out a tune and it does not run lean it runs a 13.3 most of the time along with some richer levels on the wideband so..
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Good info! all though I'm running a 74 engine right now with out a tune and it does not run lean it runs a 13.3 most of the time along with some richer levels on the wideband so..
Update today.
Let me just say. The engine hoist stabilizer is an absolute must have. I was able to tilt the engine/transmission to perfection. Literally was able to drop the motor in, in about 4 minutes once it was in the air.
Amazing useful tool. I have to buy a transmission jack as I need to be able to rotate the engine slightly and also tilt it down slightly. Did a pretty good job though centering it with some blocks of wood though for now until I pick one up.
I am amazed how much smaller the a543 really is in the engine bay. Looks great in there like it was made for this engine bay. Much more so than the a604.
Next step is making the mounts.
http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b3.../droppedin.jpg
http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b3...droppedin5.jpg
http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b3...droppedin4.jpg
http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b3...droppedin3.jpg
http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b3...droppedin2.jpg
http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b3...nginemount.jpg
I have a pretty good idea where to make 2 of the mounts for the transmission using existing threaded holes. Except the front transmission mount. The a604 has some tapped holes right in the side of the bell housing and lots of extra aluminum to support weight. The a543 does not. I am a little worried what to do for this mount. Any ideas or suggestions would be great.
a604
http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b3...mountholes.jpg
a543
http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b3...smounta543.jpg
Look at this pic. Where is it red is where the bolt holes should be. There looks to be a weak point in my opinion with that "hole" or gap between the outer bell housing and inner bell housing. I sure do wish someone with an a543 already in their car would take some pics for me of that front mount ;)
http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b3...5-speed2-2.jpg
Here's my idea for the rear mount. Basically I will be using the stock transmission mount and bolting or welding a metal extension to the bracket. I will unbolt 2 large bolts from the transmission (looks like differential cover) and then sandwich the metal bracket between longer bolts. I'm using 1/2" thick solid steel for the bracket. Should be overly strong enough. It will be shaped like a 7 of sorts.
Before:
http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b3...ransmount2.jpg
After:
http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b3...mount2copy.jpg
The front mount also seems to be an easy mount.
There are 2 threaded holes right on top of the transmission- right below where the main transmission mount is located at:
http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b3...-boltholes.jpg
And many hours of diligent searching I found the mount made by DMS right here on ASEC. Exactly what I was going to do anyway. Weld a bracket to an existing mount that I got from an Eclipse.
http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b3...t-maincopy.jpg
This bracket that goes from the engine to the transmission sure has been a PITA. I can't seem to get the starter to really sit flush against the a543. Nearly flush but not perfect. I know all I have to do is grind more metal off, its just time consuming- this metal is very hard.
http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b3...nsbracket1.jpg
http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b3...nsbracket2.jpg
Wow man! looking good:thumbup:
too good
With alot of thinking and SPD's Info/build and this guys build I'm going to buy a 6G75 and hope for some good numbers with my current 74 mods and a tune, also I think I'm going to have to have to get that intake manifold Boostzealot had made(seeing that these heads flow so well), already have the lower part of the Xg350 mani and the VH45 throttle body, also think I might pick up RPW headers for it too!
Well after a lot of planning a ton of thinking. I have decided to utilize the factory mount on the passenger side and I made a Bracket that will be bolted to the Mount and then bolted to the transmission.
I decided that I wanted to use as much factory equipment as possible from here on out. I want to try and limit the amount of custom parts needed that I couldn't make myself. And being that my welder cannot weld aluminum that thick- I didn't really have many options. I bought hardened studs that will be inserted into bolt holes that I will drill out tomorrow or Sunday for the mount. I also have a very clever Idea for the rear mount.
After looking over pictures of the 5-speed turbo venge (DMS did not use a bobble-strut) I can duplicate their mount but make it much more simple. After the main transmission mount is done- i'll work on the rear mount.
Also I have yet to gusset the mount which I will do also.
Here's the factory mount:
http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b3...mountmain6.jpg
Here's the bracket. It's made out of 1/4" solid steel. I still have to trim it a bit- and also drill all the holes. But I wanted you all to see what I am up to.
http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b3...nMountMain.jpg
http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b3...mountmain5.jpg
http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b3...mountmain4.jpg
http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b3...Mountmain3.jpg
Here it is just laying there so you can get an idea of what I am doing with it.
http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b3...Mountmain2.jpg
I also encountered a problem. First off I couldn't fit 1/4" steel between the tranny mount and the transmission without modifying the transmission. So I decided to create the space. I made a 1/4" spacer on the passenger's side main engine mount which lowered the entire engine 1/4"- fit's much better now.
http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b3...gineMount1.jpg
http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b3...gineMount2.jpg
http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b3...ountSpacer.jpg
http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b3...ginemount3.jpg
Welding by the way... is A LOT OF FUN!!!
This is some really good stuff here guys, and SPK is a freakin awesome guy. He takes time to really give out some good info and help others with projects that hasnt even been done like the 6g75 swap. This makes me really want to get the v6 G and do a project like this. Keep up the good work man I hope everything turns out ok and SPK I can not wait to see that baby start up.
Thanks for the props man! That's one of the main reasons I am posting my build to a bunch of different forums. You'd be surprised how members viewing my thread will get inspiration to get off their ass and do things they wanted to do anyway but were procrastinating. :lol:
Update
I still really can't get the bracket to sit completely flush with the tranny mount. It rubs on the transmission and I don't like that. I can't get the engine/trans completely perfectly level and I want to. I need to lower the engine about the thickness of a washer. So that's what I am going to do and see how that works.
I trimmed the bracket a lot today and also drilled the three 1/2" holes for the new studs. Those bolts that you see below are not the finished product those are just so I could mock everything up.
Also.
My welder doesn't seem to get hot enough. The welds aren't to my liking. I am not getting complete penetration through the 1/4" steel. My welder is completely capable of that and I know the problem. Every single outlet in the house I am doing the swap at are 10 amp outlets. I need at least 20amp to weld metal this thick. No biggie. I welded some gusset's onto the bracket for added strength and tomorrow the bracket will be welded by a shop- to keep my mind at ease.
I'll mock up the rear mount and then have it welded by the shop also as it will be made out of 1/2" steel in some areas. I didn't bother to clean up the welds as they will be re-welded and when they are done I'll smooth everything out and make it pretty. I think I'll paint the bracket when its finished too.
Test fit before trimming and gusset's:
http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b398/skyy406/P7.jpg
http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b3...6/103_0910.jpg
http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b3...6/103_0911.jpg
http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b3...6/103_0912.jpg
http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b3...6/103_0913.jpg
http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b3...6/103_0914.jpg
http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b3...6/103_0915.jpg
http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b398/skyy406/P3.jpg
http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b398/skyy406/P6.jpg
This drill is amazing. With sharp bits it has enough torque to plow through the steel like butter.
http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b3...6/103_0916.jpg
http://www.club3g.com/forum/3g-eclip...c-avenger.html
Here is the guy's build thread over on club3g. He said he forgot about updating here, but it is an amazing build, and a great read.
wow sorry for not updating the thread. Heres the newest pics. 3.8L is in. I rebuilt the A543. Mounts are solid, shifter works great- finishing up the wiring!
Oh boy that looks purdy!
My garage is starting to clean up a little bit now that im putting the car back together :lol:
Getting closer and closer every day guys!
http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b3...20Swap/1-1.jpg
http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b3...20Swap/2-1.jpg
http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b3...20Swap/3-1.jpg
http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b3...20Swap/4-1.jpg
Looking real good man, keep it up and more morrrre pix.
holly snap bro looks great, ur not that far from me at all,
can't wait to see this run. Keep pushing!
Looking good. What fan setup are you running?
Those are Flex-a-Lite fans from a 90-94 Eclipse. I made the shroud fit.
Did some work today.
Unfortunately I didn't have the forsight to mount the headers on the engine when it was out of the car, with my new rear header bolted on too. I tried to install my alternator and discovered that it didnt fit! So I had to make it fit. I had to remove some aluminum from the case. I am fairly sure that the area i removed material from wasnt load bearing as it was pretty thin.
Because of the close proximity to the header, I also decided to wrap them. The alternator isn't touching the header, but it is very close. Hopefully it won't fail any time soon.
The headers are coated and also wrapped. Im really excited if the header wrap actually does what the package claimed...a 50% reduction in engine bay heat.
http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b3...p/Wrapped2.jpg
http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b3...wap/rapped.jpg
http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b3...p/wrapped3.jpg
http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b3...p/wrapped6.jpg
I used some thick copper wire to hold down the wrap on the large section. I need to find some metal straps or zip ties that are at least 14" long or so. I know that the copper works because I had it on my bike for several months and it never came apart- it actually became a lot more rigid with the heating/cooling of the exhaust.
http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b3...p/wrapped5.jpg
I also installed the A/C with belt- wired it up and alternator belt.
http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b3...tinstalled.jpg
The alternator is newish, I bought it over 2 years ago, but it only saw like 1,000 miles. Anyway, it has a 6 rib pulley on it when the belt only has 5. As you can see from the picture it is not touching the tensioner 100%. I think tomorrow i'll scoot it over a little bit so that it has more contact with that tensioner.
http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b3...Swap/Belts.jpg
In addition, this wire comes from my Megasquirt and is supposed to connect to the CPS. It has a gray jacket on the outside, some silver metally wire stuff on the inside and then another wire inside of that. I am not exactly sure how to wire this up to the crank sensor. The crank sensor has a blue and a green wire coming off of it. How can I tell how to wire it up? Also below you will see the wiring diagram for the sensor, and I guess I have to split the wire apart and then solder the connections. Is there any way I can test the Sensor and see which wire is the ground on the sensor?
http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b3...luctorwire.jpg
http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b3...ingdiagram.jpg
Also if anyone was wondering, the front header is a RIPPMODS header for a 2006 Eclipse GT, and the rear header is a custome longtube header. Boostzealot had it made for me when I sent him a mock header that I designed
What im working on:
http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b3...wap/cutout.jpg
http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b3...ap/cutout2.jpg
Hood scoop from a 1969 Boss 429 mustang. It will be molded flush to the hood and 100% functional.
http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b3...ap/cutout3.jpg
http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b3...ap/cutout5.jpg
http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b3...ap/cutout6.jpg
Did some work today.
I went to the junkyard, found an Avenger and removed the interior drivers side fuse box and modified it for my Ignition On stuff. I also developed a way to mate wire to the metal tabs as shown
http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b3...ap/wiring6.jpg
http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b3...ap/wiring7.jpg
http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b3...ap/Wiring1.jpg
http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b3.../Wiring2-1.jpg
http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b3.../Wiring3-1.jpg
http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b3.../wiring4-1.jpg
http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b3...ap/wiring5.jpg
I'm pumped to see how this whole thing is gonna turn out dude!
Whoa haven't posted here in like a year. Sorry guys.
Long story short, got the engine running. I have a brand new interior, suspension, brakes... ect...
Once I get my AFR issue fixed I can start tuning!!!!
http://youtu.be/66w6z4I4ijo
amazing
Saw your vids on youtube awesome build
Car is finally driviable.
Has awesome low end torque. Doesn't make much power after 4k rpm.
Have a dyno tune session scheduled for sunday morning!!!
Fuck it feels great to drive the car!
http://youtu.be/T82GcoiPwJw
congrats it sounds great!
Nice!
It's people like you that give me hope lol. And you should totally take pics of how the dyno went and of your car and send them here!
Awesome. What was your overall cost on the swap?
Overall cost? ugh.... I don't really want to think about it. I'd say though that over the last 2 years I have spend around 30k on the swap including tools. Mind you the swap consisted of much more than just a 6g75.
Here's the finished product
http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b3...6/Hotness1.jpg
http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b3...ap/Engine1.jpg
http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b398/skyy406/4-2.jpg
Naice!
Dayum!
I'll hit it sideways...
.the car. Can't wait for the dyno/tune.
^^^ JAJA. x2 on that.
Congrats!
Dyno day!
103 degrees outside!
98% humidity outside!!!
Melted my ASD relay! Slight hold up.
Car performed well.
Mustang Dyno!
Best run was 192hp and 256tq at the wheels.
Still has some tip-in issues that will get resolved. Otherwise it screams. Kinda falls on it's face after 4k rpm. Just stops making hp. Have lots more tuning to do...
Those numbers on +40 timing! WEIRD!
Odd car to say the least.
That's me in the gray shirt!
Got my new plate too :) 6G75
http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b3...6/IMG_0430.jpg
http://youtu.be/HMDuxlYirXs
http://youtu.be/IBrs2w4OG-g