If they could do a 4g64 valve cover out of that pyrex thing it would be freaking awesome but I don't think it would hold to heat. I like the idea of it though
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If they could do a 4g64 valve cover out of that pyrex thing it would be freaking awesome but I don't think it would hold to heat. I like the idea of it though
Good point, now you can put some fishes in your coolant and you can see them from your nonricy pipe, whenever you open your hood!Quote:
Originally Posted by mindwerkz
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some people think carbon fiber is ricer....ricer is not a dam pyrax hose sorry...i have interior neoons on the floors and i think its kool because it doesnt light up alot but some people think THAT is ricer....everyone has there own opinions and seriously more than half of u have a gay ass sticker, ugly spoiler, or other things that look ricer....that is a cool n neat idea and it will be ricer until it gets popular ull see
Please update this after the summer is over if this mod holds to heat. I really don't see why most of us are flamming about his pipe it doesn't bother the overall looks. It's not the finest mod out there but it certain gives you the indication his coolant is green and not brown. Unless you are paying a portion of his car note, he can do whatever he pleases.
I posted a thread here where alot of members wrote what they thought was rice. We seem to agree on many things but it all ended up as if we are all ricers to a certain degree. Here at TGC it seems that extreme rice does not rule but does participate. Rice is in the eye of the beholder. As for this hose, rice? Ive seen, here, worst.
I like it. Not for me. But it is different and in the area of customizing its aight! :smt023
Don't forget to wrap your intake pipe in aluminum foil. And get a set of those LED Fire Flies for your valve caps. Maybe one of those red plastic cone shaped intake filters with the LED's in it. Then you'll be the shiznit on the West Coast. :D :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Cali
in person it looks really neat becasuse u see the coolaant flowwing...mindwerks: give it some gas man ull see the coolant just get sucked in and move all crazy in there
fishboy man do u know about heat n performance?? that is the heat wrap that keeps ur intake alot cooler thn not having crap so lets say if both of u r i4 with intakes, the chances of him winning not by alot, but winning are more than u winniing.. u would be surprised what lil things lik that can do
how does it go.. for every 10 degrees lower temp, you gain 1% in hp. so he gained 1hp with the heat wrap? you get that same temp drop using a throttle body spacer.
I think its different and a good show mod. always good to be up on the latest and greatest. I've never heard about the blue radiator fluid either. You should look at the specs on that for sure before changing everything.
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Originally Posted by Fishboy55
don't forget to be 45 and think you're 16... seriously, it's different... not my style, but at least different... if it only fit like OEM and went the whole length of the tube, then maybe that MIGHT be worth the cash... but i just don't see spending even $120 on a 6" piece of pyrex between 2 stock radiator hoses to see what the coolant looks like... but yeah, it is very different, and i like it in that respect...
I agree. I think it could be cool, but only having a part of one hose like that...Maybe if some other hoses matched it as well...Cool idea tho.Quote:
Originally Posted by thebirdman13
everyone things rice is a different thing, theres no agreement on what rice is. some people thing having a non painted carbon fiber hood is rice, or having a body kit period, or having an exhaust when your car isnt putting out power. some people think fixing up family sedans is rice. its all the matter of how u look at it. this is just another thing that has came out that some people ar egonna like, and some arent
Yeah but this only cost me like $20 and install is about as intensive as putting on a condom.Quote:
Originally Posted by qnz
Alex - I was going to rev it but I was also the camera man. I'll post another video when I have someone to film for me. Also, sorry the sound isn't very slick in that vid. It's actually a still camera with a video function.
The chunks of radiator hose on either end are to act as shock absorbers. Don't forget that the engine moves around in the bay. You don't want a solid connection between the engine and the radiator. But yeah, I would have liked a little more glass. This is the first 6G72 hose they've done though so I won't complain. If I ever have them do an etched one, I'll ask for more glass.Quote:
Originally Posted by thebirdman13
I'm way ahead of you. I'm looking into which parts can be replaced with pyrex. Figure I'll add a pyrex part each year until I can't find anyplace else to put em.Quote:
Originally Posted by Koncept
that looks badass, it would look good on my car being green and all
different color hood, trunk and gas cap are rice in my mind. this hose thing.. not so much..
sorry g-spot. lol
pretty neat stuff there.. it looks as if you got some toxic ecloplasmic things going to your engine.. nice.
fyi - I'm going start monitoring coolant temp regularly on my OBD doodad. If I notice anything unusual as the weather gets warmer I'll post it.
So far I'm noticing that the pyrex itself gets way hotter to the touch than the surrounding hose material. But yeah, the hose part stays normal and I haven't noticed it getting unusually hot so far on the ScanGauge. :smt023
Hey, does Pyrex possibly have heat-sink properties? any chemistry guys on here? hmmmm... research must be done.
i highly doubt that the pyrax messes anything up because the company would not be selling it or they would give a cautoon note, those thing probly go thru alot of testing before they go out on the market...also the air bubble probly happened because u didmt have the coolant filled all the way
pyrax needs to make one for the headers so everyone can see the black smoke :smt028
neat idea, just to $$$...rice is in the eye of the beholder
Only if it comes with strobe illumination that strobes in time with RPM. :lol:Quote:
Originally Posted by G-spot
My intake pipe is neatly wrapped with non-metallic header wrap and tied off and doesn't look like a badly wrapped Xmas present. And by the way, if you wrap a metal pipe with metallic wrap, how much heat do you think it prevents anyway? As far as an advantage on the track, not even worth mentioning like qnz said.Quote:
Originally Posted by alexvr
It's fiberglass cloth with a metallic heat reflective surface facing out. You'll notice I tied it off at the ends with some of their heat reflective tape.
Are you sure that was a good idea with the wrap you used? The stuff I used is specifically designed to keep heat out of a pipe, while exhaust wrap is specifically designed to make a pipe as hot as possible without melting it.
As far as track advantage; if it's not worth mentioning, why is it on so many dedicated track cars? And why did I have to goto a dedicated track racing shop to purchase it?
Fyi - wear gloves during install or you WILL be covered in glass fibers by the time you are done. Ouch
because 1% of their hp is like 5hp while 1% of your hp is 1hp.
5hp is still nothing. but these guys would skip eating lunch, just to gain .01 of a second. you'ld probably go faster if you take your spare tire out
I did that too. And the jack. And yes I did notice about the same difference in percieved power gain lol. :lol:Quote:
Originally Posted by qnz
thats really cool and defentualy NOT RICE. you guys are retarted if you thyink this is rice. stop giving him shit for doing somthing that he thinks is cool, its not on your car so stop giving him shit
BMW only came up with the "blue" coolant for warrenty purposes only, its the same as the green coolantQuote:
Originally Posted by pinoyesv6
i can dig it, i think its cool, never saw it b4, very unique, keep doin ya thing bro :smt023
Good to know! Thanks Kidd.Quote:
Originally Posted by BxGuyaneseKidd
BTW - everyone who's planning on hitting up the HIN series this year, make sure to check out the Killer Glass display. They're traveling with the show this year showing off prototypes of new products and the KG models. 8)
no prob, anytime broQuote:
Originally Posted by mindwerkz
Quite frankly...i like it! And i woulda boughta Clear hodd for my Galant if they made them for my car. That shit is definitely PIMP. 8)
yup thats pimp
i want one
Lemme know if you can find any still for sale. I seen them about 2-3 years ago. But i dont really see them anymore.Quote:
furiousgtz Posted: 20 Mar 2007 10:37 am Post subject:
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yup thats pimp
i want one
Actually a clear hood would be kinda cool for shows. Keep the lines on your car while letting people look at the engine without letting them touch it. Totally wouldn't drive with it unless I had some monster of an engine though. :lol:
I guess it looks ok. As other have said its not my cup of tea, but its your car in the end so whatever makes you happy.
First and foremost, all glass that goes by the brand name Pyrex is NOT borosilicate glass. Additionally, borosilicates have high softening points but will crack or fracture with uneven heating though.
As far as borosilicate glass in general holds heat really really well, which is part of the reason that pyrex is used in bakeware. In theory, anything that is at a lower temperature than another object can function as a heat sink. For example, your engine produces heat, you run fluid past engine which is at a lower temperature acts as a heat sink and draws the heat energy away from the metal parts, you then in turn run the fluid through a radiator which only increases the surface area and use the moving air (which acts as a heatsink) to dissapate the heat energy in the fluid. Putting the pyrex in line might stabilize the fluid temperature at a slightly higher temperature because the glass will absorb the radiated heat of the engine and begin to transfer it back to fluid (dynamic process). To test that effect, put a baking glass in the oven for 10 mins and a piece of rubber and see which feel hotter when you take it out. Typical rubber radiator hose is a poor conductor of heat so you don't notice the effect as much. That's the most likely reason the glass is warmer than surronding hose.
/chemistry degree
Thank you professor jusmills :D
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"What is Killerglass (borosillicate) Glass?
Thanks to a railroad glass scientist needing to create a lantern that got hot but did not shatter when rain or snow got on it we now have pyres glass. The word Pyrex comes from the Greek Word pyro or fire, and Ex which refers to the type of glass. It does not expand or change shape when heated. This may be why Pyrex glass in the 1960s and '70s was used in the windows of the Apollo and Gemini spacecraft.
Composition of Pyrex Glass:
Density (g/cm3) = 2.23000E+00 Mean Excitation Energy (eV) = 134.000000
Properties Of Borosilicate (PYREX 7740) Glass Chemical Resistance Borosilicate glass is inert to almost all materials with the exception of hydrofluoric acid, hot phosphoric acid and hot alkalies. Of these, hydrofluoric acid has the most serious effect and, even when a solution contains a few parts per million, attack will occur. Phosphoric acid and caustic solutions cause no problems when cold but at elevated temperatures corrosion occurs. Caustic solutions up to 30% concentration can be handled safely at ambient temperatures. Physical Properties: Composition Low-expansion borosilicate glass has the following approximate chemical composition:
SiO2 81%
Na2O 4.0%
K2O 0.5 B2O3 13.0%
Al2O3 2.0%
For further details please refer to ASTM E 438, "Standard Specification for Glasses in Laboratory Apparatus." Linear Coefficient of Expansion: Between 32°F and 572°F [0°C and 300°C], per ASTM Method E 228) 18.1 x 10-7 in/in/7°F 32.5x10-7 cm/cm/°C Annealing: All fittings and all straight lengths are annealed to reduce internal stress. This also makes the pipe easier to field fabricate. Thermal Conductivity: 0.73 Btu/hr-ft2-°F/ft 0.0035 cal/sec-cm2-°C/cm Specific Heat: 0.20 Btu/lb-°F 0.20 cal/gm-°C Dialectric Constant: at 23°C and 1M Hz per ASTM Method D 150: 4.6 ±-0.2 Density: Approximately 139 lb/ft3 (2.23 gm/cm3) Young's Modulus: per ASTM Method C215: in the range of 9 x 106 to 10 x 106 psi. Mechanical Strength: The mechanical properties of glass differ from those of metals. The lack of ductility of glass prevents the equalization of stresses at local irregularities or flaws and the breaking strength varies considerably about a mean value. This latter is commonly found to occur at a tensile strength of about 70 kg/cm2 (1000 psi). The glass should be adequately supported and appropriate allowance should be made for special conditions such as high temperatures, dense liquids, etc. Subject to the above, maximum working pressures are as specified in the following table. Working Temperatures Borosilicate glass retains its mechanical strength and will deform only at temperatures which approach its strain point. The practical upper limit for operating temperatures Is much lower and is controlled by the temperature ditterentials in the glass, which depend on the relative temperatures of the contents of the equipment and the external surroundings. Provided borosilicate glass is not subjected to rapid change in temperature, creating undue thermal shock, it can be operated safely at temperatures up to 450°F (232°C). The normal limiting factor is actually the gasket material. The degree of thermal shock (usually defined as sudden chilling) which it can withstand depends on many factors, for example: stresses due to operating conditions; stresses imposed in supporting the equipment; the wall thickness of the glass, etc. It is therefore undesirable to give an overall figure but, as a general guide, sudden temperature changes of up to about 216°F (120°C) can be accommodated At sub-zero temperatures, the tensile strength of borosilicate glass tends to increase and equipment can be used with safety at cryogenic temperatures.
Chemical Hardening
Killerglass is chemical hardened by our three step hardening process to increase the impact resistance of the borosilicate glass 300-400%
Making this the ideal product for severe duty applications."
There's a GTO rolling round here in Christchurch with a clear hood, I think it's make from a plastic type substance....Quote:
Originally Posted by mindwerkz