have u asked tj or bj
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have u asked tj or bj
I posted it on MP earlier this morning. BJ's TB only had one vacuum actuator IIRC.
anyway plugging everything back in and I ran in to one problem:
Back in SPD_FRK's thread I posted that both the IAC and TPS plugs on the Diamante TB were the same as those on the 6G72.. well I was wrong haha I guess the IAC was similar in shape, however it's different. Here are some pics:
http://i215.photobucket.com/albums/c...7-18-09002.jpg http://i215.photobucket.com/albums/c...7-18-09003.jpg
6G72
http://i215.photobucket.com/albums/c...7-18-09004.jpg http://i215.photobucket.com/albums/c...7-18-09005.jpg
Diamante
http://i215.photobucket.com/albums/c...7-18-09006.jpg
Lucky for me, the engine came with almost the complete harness hacked off (I guess they didn't want to unplug everything.. Also came with the alternator, AC, and power steering brackets. Guess I struck it rich haha). This is the Diamante plug connection.
http://i215.photobucket.com/albums/c...7-18-09007.jpg
6G72 plug connection connected to the harness
So I'm going to need to cut off the 6G72 plug connector and solder on the one from the Diamante. Just need to figure out the pins
do work son!
I believe the 74 had slight differences over years and they went through a minor change (as far as the plenum and throttle body are concerned) in 2000 or so. Mine doesn't have the fitting you have circled in blue.
Im thinking the years they started changing a few things was 2002.Quote:
Originally Posted by M-Rod
You should make a How To thread about doing this swap.. List of parts, where to get them, how much.. etc. It should be made a sticky if you do because there are plenty of people out there who have tons of questions about this swap..
There really isn't much more involved than swapping in another 6g72. Depending on the year of the donor motor there is very little modification.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jeffylou87
Jeffylou, Matt is totally correct. the 74 is essentially the same. I was surprised at how similar it is actually. Luckily, mine came with the alternator and powersteering brackets (You need those from the 74)
For anyone wanting to do the swap that doesn't get the powersteering bracket, I may be selling mine as I deleted the PS
There is however a tutorial on club3g that I referenced quite a bit. Read the whole thing and all the little details. It really helps. Also helps to have a Haynes Manual (essentially it walks you through the steps of removing an engine)
Right here: http://www.club3g.com/forum/performa...74-engine.html
If you want me to start up a 3.5L swap thread though, I will do so
Hell, I just turned 18 in may, and the extent of my automotive experience was lowering my car back in December 2008. Prior to that, not much car knowledge. I did a hell of a lot of reading and re-reading though
for your first swap, i think you did a hell of a great job. makes me want an 8g to do that swap, lol.
thanks man :)
and so my plan was to have the car running by saturday.. which was yesterday. Ran into some problems though. One of them was the IAC plug which i previously stated. Also, I'm using the stock intake tubing up until the MAF for now. Had to hack off the little water catch box near the bend at the TB as it wouldn't fit b/c it was hitting the brake fluid reservoir. Also I was planning on putting the battery on the shelf where the old air filter box used to be, but the damn filter I bought is HUGE and the stock intake piping angles it right to that shelf.. and there is not enough room for the battery tray in the old position. Need to maybe get a smaller battery or something (getting a new battery anyway) and slim down the stock tray
Have you considered relocating the battery to the trunk? It's planned for my swap. I think it would be a great way to make room and clean up the engine bay at the same time. Just a possible suggestion. But you are doing great so far, keep it up. I can't wait to see this thing run!
Yea I was thinking about that. I need to look up how to do a battery relocation though. I would have to drill into the firewall for the new wires correct? (that kind of scares me)... but I guess I have come this far haha
Either that, or else you could run wires through your inner fender with your harness that goes to the dash.
Found this picture that Fred posted long ago, but you will see which wires I'm talking about. You can still access these with only the inner fender removed.
http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/l...R/100_0311.jpg
A battery re-location will look great. I'm also thinking of doing in in my stratus because of the up coming 74 swap. The picture M-rod posted is the way i'm going to be routing my wires, very good place to run them.
I guess I could get this?
http://www.summitracing.com/parts/SUM-G1200A/
Once I run it through the fender and in through the dash, I guess I have to run it under the carpet and then somehow in to the trunk? Some guys appear to be running it on the side of the frame rails.. which doesn't seem like the brightest idea to me for some reason
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Originally Posted by beam514
I would get that one, and yes you can pull the door sills up and pull the carpet back and run the wire along the floor under the carpet. Just make sure you make sure its not going to be anywhere in harms way like near seat bolt down points, under the trunk release, running under any sharp edges. It will be just like running amp wiring for a sub woofer but more important lol :D
Okay so I had my brother go buy a Braille battery at a performance shop near his house. I Guess I'll have to fab up some kind of custom battery tray b/c the stock one doesn't fit as it hits the 6G74's distributor. Also, there's no room on the little driverside shelf. So I will be getting that tonight, and finishing up my ghetto-intake, and then it should be good to go
Also, does NO ONE have any thoughts on the extra vacuum actuator? and the extra fitting on the back of the plenum?
okay the car is running!!! using a Braille battery on the modified OEM battery tray. Car sounds REALLY good. Kinda hard to turn with no power steering, but I'll get used to it
Videos will be up tonight!
SO this is now unofficially the 2nd 6G74 swapped Galant in the nation :)
sweet. i hope to be number three. well see. congrats dude!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y71ePXdsdZQ
First start :D
do you already have the block and everything? it seems that there's quite a few people right now trying to get this doneQuote:
Originally Posted by 00galantguy
Nice bro. Whats next?
Not really sure actually.. I leave for college in september, so I don't know if I have enough time to get anything else done at the moment. can't bring all my tools either as I'll be staying in the dorms
nice congrads
In that case let me have your galant and I will give you mine you wont tell the difference I promise. :orangelaugh:Quote:
Originally Posted by beam514
Looks like you have done a good job with the install man. I noticed you had a couple issues with things, but hopefully have them straightened out.
I was also going to relocate the battery to the trunk but instead mounted the stock battery tray on the driver's side shelf within the engine compartment. You would need to bolt it down to the shelf (and in fact can make use of the existing holes there). Thjere is plenty of clearance between the terminals and the hood so there weren't any issues with that location;
http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/e...9091541-00.jpg
http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/e...9091457-00.jpg
With the vacuum port on the rear portion of the intake manifold I would assume that has to be for part of the EGR system. You could easily hook that up directly to the EGR valve when you go to emissions so you are bypassing the electrical solenoid. Once you have done your emissions you can simply cap the vacuum port and block the EGR port on the system.
congrats dude! i love that first start feeling! scary but exciting non the less!
thanks guys :) jimmy its too bad I couldn't finish it for MOD haha
SPD_FRK, I was actually planning on doing exactly that with the battery tray, but once I mounted the stock intake piping I realized that there's no way in hell that a battery would fit there cause the fuckin huge K&N filter takes up pretty much the whole shelf. I basically hacked off part of the stock battery tray to fit in its normal mounting spot, then I bought a Braille battery. I still need to drill some holes to allow for battery tie downs, but for now its actually planted pretty well with some painters' tape (hahaha.. trying to not take any corners too fast)
I will post pics and vids of it running smoothly soon
Are you running a CAI or a Short Ram? I am fabbing my own CAI system, but too frequently I see a lot of folks here running the short ram intakes...not big for sucking in hot air myself, but colder air is always better IMO.Quote:
Originally Posted by beam514
Congrats Adrian! I'm glad to see it's running. Did you end up using the heads from the 74, or did you swap over the heads from your 72?
Matt, I used the heads from the 74. In fact I never even removed them. I was getting tons of lifter tick and my valves were leaking tons of oil on the old 72. This swap was pretty much routine maintenance on the 6G74 (new timing belt, tensioner, tensioner pulley, idler pulley, water pump, spark plugs, and gaskets for anything that was removed), throw it in the Galant, and go.
The intake is the stock intake piping up until the MAF. I hacked off the water catch box near the throttle body because it was hitting the brake fluid resevoir and covered that up. The angle of the piping makes it so that the filter sits right on the shelf. This is temporary to keep the engine bay as stock looking as possible so I can pass emissions.
As for the rear vacuum port. I am not quite understanding what you are saying about the EGR. I basically have it set up like the picture below which is actually a diagram for the 6G72. I have made a red dot for where the extra vacuum port is on the Diamante plenum
http://i215.photobucket.com/albums/c...nsDiagram2.jpg
Before and after photo's:
http://i215.photobucket.com/albums/c...-2-2009001.jpg
http://i215.photobucket.com/albums/c...os/7-26-09.jpg
I have been looking through alldata here at work now for a few minutes. Going from 1999-2004 Diamante models the intake manifold, and vacuum routing are all identical and have no indication/mention of the fitting on the rear side of your manifold.
The only thing I can take a stab at here (based on what I can/cant see in the two photos, and no vacuum line routed to the FPR shown), is that the port may be for the FPR, but there should be one on the side facing the front of the vehicle. Now if there is one there, then forget about this...but right now I am scratching my own head trying to figure it out.
yeap there is one on the "front" of the plenum connected to the FPR, its just hard to see in all the mess. *shrug* the rear port is just plugged with some electrical tape right now lolQuote:
Originally Posted by SPD_FRK
Nice job on the car man, keep up the good work.
I think you will be fine with that plugged on the back of the plenum. Here is the routing for the 1998 style which will be more similar to our 1999 6G72 Galants.
http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u...oseRouting.gif
yea the car is running just fine with no CELs or anything with that rear port plugged. I need to find something more permanent to plug it though. The electrical tape isn't going to cut it..
anyway I went to a muffler shop to get an estimate on welding on my Magnaflow, and I guess they had time to do it right then so they welded it on for 60 bucks. Its actually not too loud (at least from inside the car) when driving normally. Part # 14827
I will take pics and vids tomorrow when its light out
Definitely get some videos of the car with the new exhaust.Quote:
Originally Posted by beam514
So what do you think of the 6G74 so far?
So are you running the injectors from the 6G72? don't remember what you said you were going to do.
Yea, I'll get some vids as soon as possible with my lil canon SD750.. i wanted to get some vids of the stock exhaust to compare it but when the shop said they could get it done right then I jumped on the deal haha
and I'm using the stock 6G72 injectors. To be honest I've been going reallllly easy on the engine for the past couple of days. Have yet to really open up. I have my first free day tomorrow without work though so I am gonna go for a nice drive :)
Put a piece of vacuum line with a screw in it. For that extra seal you could wrap the threads of the screw with teflon tape and it should hold just fine.Quote:
Originally Posted by beam514
ohhh great idea. I actually have form-a-gasket so I'll just use that and let it dry