yea you need to pick up isaurios gears btw i think i mentioned it in the list but the hyundai gears dont match our belts different teeth shape and size or you can get the sonata oil pump and bottom sproket but thats more of a pain then its worth.
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yea you need to pick up isaurios gears btw i think i mentioned it in the list but the hyundai gears dont match our belts different teeth shape and size or you can get the sonata oil pump and bottom sproket but thats more of a pain then its worth.
p.s. im using and evo 8 belt with evo 8 adjustable gears not too tight of a fit if you ask me but ehh who knows.
Do you know if the evo camshaft will fit the sonata head? Not sure about that since the evo ones have a more agressive timing.Quote:
Originally Posted by reiketsutsukigami
yeah like i said it works and yes you need the adjustable cam gear at least one. But best fit and for better durability on the long run. The 94 galant gs is the best choice for the setup. I did a lot of research since i'm crosing over to the 4g64/63T platformQuote:
Originally Posted by reiketsutsukigami
Dang isaurio i was just thinking of asking that.
so let me get this right if you run the sonata cam gears the 94 gs belt will work? you wouldnt need the adjustables? i always thought you needed at least 1 adjustable to time it properly.
adjustable gears will make your life easier and you can pick them up for cheap enough on ebay and evo cams , springs, and retainers all work in the sonata head im running stock evo 8 cams w/ bc springs and tit retainers for the evo 8.
and no you cant run the sonata cam gears the size of the teeth on the belt wont fit.
not to mention the evo i/m will also fit the sonata head.
From my research iirc both i/m's are identical
As a matter of fact I have both and I could get side to side pics for reference of needed.
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So is the sonata cams, valves and springs good enough to run with low psi boosted or would i still need to upgrade them also as for my future plans are to be boosted, but that's far future.
Question is can the evo oem camshaft fit the sonata head?
YesQuote:
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and no the i/m are different spd the evo one is shorter by a lot you can't fit a stb with the sonata and yes i currently have evo 8 OEM camshafts in my sonata head. and djah yes theyre fine for mid range psi like 8-15psi is fine with the stock sonata head youll get more out of it with upgrading to evo parts but whatev.
yes i got negged on clug3g for sayig the same thing. Isuario is correct. think of doing a t-belt job its a pita the first time trying to get everything tight, but now you just went and put on a belt that is meant for a block 6mm shorter than yours hmmmm well this puts alot more stress on the belt than necessary. So why not just go for the correct belt for little price difference. But in the end it could be cheaper, more stress on belt= belt failure= possibly motor damage.:clay:Quote:
Originally Posted by Isaurio
I was only able to compare them through pics only since I didn't have them in hand but now I could look at them side by sideQuote:
Originally Posted by reiketsutsukigami
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So u r saying the 94 gs belt is the better route, right ??Quote:
Originally Posted by mrg7243
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I would say so, because the tensionor is used to tension up the slack.. so as long as thats working as it should. Personally, I would rather have my belt split 4 teeth and have it run like crap versus breaking and causing a total loss of engine lol...
Very trueQuote:
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if you can get the "right" 94 gs belt then definitely go with it but i got 4 diff belts from autozone and advanced and they fked up or something cause not a single one fit so i ended up going with the evo one witch honestly wasnt all that tight slides on and off without much more struggle then the stock belt had but im going to be going to the gates evo8 belt soon just to be on the safe side for strength.
So with this head swap, should i still pass smog in cali?
Correct it is the best option IMEHO, i woundlnt even do the swap till i had the belt in my hands.Quote:
Originally Posted by spdracr
@bigvic im unsure about that it's only adding a different stock part to the car but i dont know much about calis smog restrictions but i cant see how they would fail you for it.
O ok bc i was thinking that if it has the emission control and all it should b ok, I was jus wondering.
Just curious but has anyone tried dsm cam gears say off of a 1g or 2g, or is the evo gears the best rought? Because i have a friend that has lots of extra parts that he was throwing out, i was wondering if i should grab some gears from him, incase i decide to do this swap instead of the evo head.
im not sure but i think 2g cam gears might work not sure though.
but even with the evo head you need gears no matter what block is 6mm taller in deck height.
So no matter what adjustable gears are the only way for it to work? Am i undestanding correctly, or am i confused now? I have one more jy to check for evo head if its no good it looks like i am doing the sonata swap.
bigvic no you will not pass smog legally in CA with that swap. CA does visual and a 2 speed roller test. it sucks i know
94 galant gs belt works perfect... no need for adjustable gears either, but if you do want them look up Pro Street Lancer Evolution EVO Cam Gears i got both of mine for around 120. not sure how much they are now.
Ok thinks man 120 isn't to bad for adjustables thought.Quote:
Originally Posted by underated
So a hyundai or an evo head swap wont pass smog? Bc I heard as long as its the same manuf its somewhat ok bt I cnt mix and match manuf.... damn this sux in CA all these damn restrictions...Quote:
Originally Posted by underated
You could pass only if you have stock air box and you dont have any CEL. But is ok if you do a DOHC as log you keep the settup stock.
Oh ok... hmmmmm im gonna have to do more research for now then. Thx anywhoQuote:
Originally Posted by Isaurio
been reading up on this for a while, I'm gonna go with the Hyundai head, just to confirm I can use the stock hyundai cam gears with a 94GS timing belt correct? and I would just run the sonta head gasket correct?
better off to use the adjustable anyhow for tuning and if your doing the swap do it once. And as for head gasket get an oem evo h/g guys are not likeing the cometic ones right now.
Correct. But you need at least one adjustable cam gear 2 for best setup. The 94GS belt is the correct belt.Quote:
Originally Posted by greddy
Pm me. I have some evo parts for sale that you could use.
wrong!!!! you cant use hyundai gears or the stock galant sohc gears. you need evo camgears dont buy anything else. and dont but the evo head gasket. just get and oem galant headgasket they are multi layerd steel now. thats what im using and its working fine . even at an 88mm bore
here is why the sonata/optima/galant gears and reluctors dont work
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Thats what i mean. Evo adjustable gear. Is for a fact the galant dont work
you need 2 evo cam gears one adjustable and one not or if you prefer bothQuote:
Originally Posted by Isaurio