nice work and info here.. i wanna pick up anther 7g and make it awd and your helping me out a lot.. keep it up
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nice work and info here.. i wanna pick up anther 7g and make it awd and your helping me out a lot.. keep it up
Thanks :) After talking to my friend about intercoolers and making piping I decided to just buy a kit. I just picked this one up off eBay. Seemed like the best deal I could find.
thats a nice kit. i wish my pipe came with a flange for a stock bov (1g) instead of the tail one. very nice build.Quote:
Originally Posted by eclipsh
great job man! this is what we all would like to do!
I was wrapping up the last of the wiring this morning and noticed something under the dash; what looks like an OBDII port. The build date on my car is Feb 94. Odd...
At any rate, I'm all done with wiring save the radiator fans. I'm looking into which temp sensor wire I'll need to tap but I ran out of time this morning. Tomorrow I'll measure for the drive shaft, drop the rear subframe to finish the brake cables and gas tank and install the wiring harness.
Oh, and I hooked pin 45 of the Galant to pin 7 of the DSM ECU for the A/C pressure switch.
Yep it's an OBD 2 port...I'm trying to figure that bit out myself to be honest.
thats a part of OBD1.5. it has obd1 and obd2 plugs and in order to read a code with a scanner you have to use both
defintly i plan on doing this and seeing it done is amazing.. cant wait to see this doneQuote:
Originally Posted by kolio
Well I got the wiring harness in and I'm getting it all hooked up. I also got a delivery today, my new FMIC. I'll pull the front cover off today and see how it'll fit.
EDIT: How the heck does this thing think I have 3 posts total? Oh and when does Newbie status go away so I can update my garage/photos etc?
post only count in tech forums. wich you should have more.Quote:
Originally Posted by eclipsh
Can't wait to see the finished product
You know, that does make me wonder why this got moved. It is loaded with good technical information on doing the swap, from wiring to custom fabrication and all that jazz.Quote:
Originally Posted by kolio
At any rate, my FMIC showed up this afternoon. I pulled the front cover off in preparation for installing it. I ran out of electrical tape for the wiring harness but everything is plugged in. I may stick the battery in and hook my logger up to see how much I did right.
Well my buddy Rick came over to the house yesterday and we got the Galant onto a trailer. Off it went to his place where we got it up on his lift and started working.
Rick spent the day working on fitting my FMIC. He's very particular about how things are made so he took his time but did a great job mounting it and routing the piping.
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I spent the day working on getting the carrier bearing bracket and fitting the exhaust. Rick had the idea to put 4" bolts through the top of the carrier bearing plate and body of the car to bolt it through the top and skip welding it to the car. If you look at the bracket in the picture below you can see two small holes on the flat plate where I drilled through the car. The bolts aren't in it.
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After that I got the exhaust going, cutting up the 3" Apexi that was on the Talon and fitting it into the tighter tunnel of the Galant. The Talon exhaust had a lot of extra kinks and bends in the center that made it impossible to fit. So I cut them out and ran a straight section of pipe we got from one of Rick's friends.
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After fitting it up, another friend of Rick's came over and welded things up for us. He's a fantastic welder and a very nice guy to boot.
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With that done I still need to get the gas tank in, finish a couple small wiring bits, get my gauge cluster together and a few other odds and ends. It was a productive day and I look forward to heading back over next Friday to finish it up.
That's great progress Nick. The carrier bearing bracket looks fantastic.
It must be nice having access to a lift.
Good progress going on! That would truly be one of a kind on your side of the world!
also, do I spy a section of your chassis rail crushed??
Thanks Fuel, I know this has been done to a few Dodges but I may be the first to complete it in the U.S. or North America. Kinda cool thinking that.
You do indeed spy a section of my chassis rail crushed. It looks like they nailed something big on that side. Thankfully the fuel lines are in good shape. I'll bang the floor back down at some point and see about getting the rail fixed up too.
Michael, the lift is a godsend. I fit together my Talon's exhaust by crawling under it on the ground. I'm very happy I didn't have to do it again on this.
Also, I dropped the drive shaft off to be built today. They promised to have it ready for me Thursday morning. For total measurements, I shortened the rear shaft by 2" which left the front shaft at 56.25". I'd explain where I took the measurements but I'll just post up a picture to explain it later.
Just a minor update, last night I finally got the displays for my JAW O2 unit. Here is how I mounted them.
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Unfortunately I had already cut out the Tach side when I realized that I couldn't mount the speedo side as high. Otherwise I could have set them at the same height. Someday I'll probably get another tach cover and get them mounted more evenly.
Thats awesome. Great work man cant wait to see it finished.
Very nice progress!!!! Note to self Google JAW 02 :)
can't wait to see the gas tank go in...or will you be going with a fuel cell?
No need to google, check out http://14point7.com/
As I mentioned a few times earlier in this thread I will be using the stock AWD gas tank in the Galant. Unfortonately someone cut the threaded portion off my fuel pump lines so I'll need to replace the fuel pump cover or take parts off the FWD fuel pump cover to make it work.
i was thinking of using the JAW wideband but then i found out that they also have the NAW oem. my 1g is ready to be driven other than not having the legal stickers and a wideband. i would had pulled the trigger on the NAW kit but then it wasn't programmable plus it wasn't an identical to lc1 in the output.
nby the way my screen name on dsmap is doroyce05 :)
Well the drive train is done. I have the drive shaft and exhaust in, the gas tank in and fluids topped off. Unfortunately my wiring didn't work. The car won't turn over with the key and I'm not getting a ground signal for the injectors when I use a jumper wire to turn the car over (key on of course). I am getting spark though so that is one good thing. I'll look into the rest as I find time.
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As you can see clearances were very tight with the 3" exhaust. It tucks up nicely though. We did have to bang in a couple spots so it wouldn't rub on the drive shaft. I'll also need to grind the center exhaust flange down a bit to keep it from rubbing but otherwise it fits like a dream.
i'm so pumped for you. once you get it figured out we need launch vids!!!!
wow, youre killing it man. great work. The last picture makes me wanna have AWD galant.
I think that 3'' is a lil overkill if you dont have built motor, cuz you can boost stock motor just that much and the stock 2.25'' or aftermarket 2.5'' can handle it with some straight resonators and a high flow cat...........I have 3'' exhaust:)
Everything looks amazing, hopefully we will see more Galants going this way.
That really looks good!!!! Iam glad to see a 7g awd conversion finally happen...
Man that awd gas tank looks like it fits perfect!!!!
Could you take a pic of your jpipe/licp from inside the bay... Just curious...
Very Nice Job indeed!!!
on a 14b and a stock 4g63 a 3" exhaust will yeild significant gains over a 2.25 exhaust.Quote:
Originally Posted by mko
all the backpressure needed on a turbocharged engine will be found in the manifold. any backpressure post-turbo will steal both torque and power.
I'm suprised you didn't yank the heatshield out of the exhaust tunnel just to free up more working room. I ditched mine a long time ago.
Thanks again for all the encouragement guys. I'm really looking forward to getting my wiring straight and starting this puppy up!
MKO, a turbo works as a pressure differential machine. The greater the change in pressure before vs. after the hot side the more efficiently the turbo can operate and the more power you get. You also get quicker spool up for a better torque band. That is why the 3" pipe is better than a 2.5" or 2.25". It is also what I had handy to use ;)
DOHCstunr, I left the heat shield in because that exhaust is right up against the body of the car. I don't want all that heat coming up through the floor boards. I actually had to bend it a bit to get everything in but I'm happy it is there.
Oh, the AWD tank does fit perfectly, the J-pipe is the same as on a 2g eclipse so no point in taking pictures and we'll see about the launch vid. I don't like risking breaking anything on launches, the repairs are too expensive. Maybe on dirt ;)
poop. lol i would be so siked i would probably wreck the drivetrain the first launch.Quote:
Originally Posted by eclipsh
you got to do at least a small one.
whoa that exhaust looks quite close to the driveshaft in one place, and looks to be resting up against the transfer case casing in another part?? looks like a good conversion though!
Sorry, I didn't explain the photos very well. Those were the test fitting. In later pictures I think you can see where we took a hammer to the exhaust to get a little clearance at the transfer case and the front of the drive shaft. The only spot it is too close now is the flange which I still need to grind down.Quote:
Originally Posted by fuel
EDIT: Nope, guess you can't see where we banged it in, my bad.
So I managed to get my logger working this morning and looked into what the ECU was seeing. I'm getting all my sensor data although the TPS sensor seems to be sending an odd signal. I'll have to look into that more later. The ECU trigger of the fuel pump doesn't seem to do anything right now. I'll check that wiring and the starter wiring at some point and see what I can come up with. I am encouraged by the sensors and data link working though. It means I probably haven't fried the ECU and most of my wiring is right.
im so stoked now.. i have been thinking about doing this swap for a while and im glad to c it being done
good work and you work quick man i like it and keep it up
Chris
i just read this whole post from beginning to end for the first time today. good build you got going there. cant wait to see it moving for the first time. if i were you id either get the 7gb bumper and cut it out or get the JDM DE bumper. no need to cover up that nice intercooler like that
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If you take out the rectangular bumper stay thing you'd notice that there are 2 perfectly round hole at the headlight bucket. A real VR4 uses those two holes for passing the intercooler piping through.
Not like you have to, but Mitsubishi already made holes for the shortest possible intercooler route I thought you might want to use it. Looks like you are sticking to 2.5" intercooler piping anyway.
Also for the exahaust clearance, on a true VR4 there is another carrier bearing just about 1ft or so down from the transfer case, that bearing pushes the first section of the driveshaft a bit away from the exhaust for clearance.
in a European VR4 swap mod car (I think you can see the swap somewhere in the customs thread) what happened is that they take out the floorpan center section and weld that back to the FWD chassis, so there's provision for the first carrier bearing. Of course the VR4 shaft is used as well. So the VR4 shaft has one more section compared to the GSX shaft.
Good luck.
very nice job on this build. I can't wait to see it finished
Regarding the rewiring and the ECU, would it be bette to rewire the whole car with the 1g wire harness? Or rewire it witht he 1g plugs into the 7g existing harness?
this wont be a 7g Galant VR-4 when its done.Quote:
Originally Posted by hk20000
It will be a 7g Galant ES-X :borg:
wow, no room for resonators.
Wonder what your exhaust is going to sound like. Should sound pretty mean... and LOUD!
Awesome job, I'm loving the progress. AWD for my final structural Modification!!