I'd imagine many were fooled by them, as the many others that are faked.
Hahaha...that is a funny joke that guy has...lol
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not every wheel is easily copied. some are harder than others to the point that some just don't get copied. one piece wheels are easier to fake than multi piece and some multi-piece are too hard to pull off and not look totally fake.
the exposed polished flange between the barrel and face on my wheels is not easily copied especially if the face is not chrome (because the face would b a different color than the flange); it is even more obvious on the gold version. this was one of the reasons i got these particular wheels and in special order gunmetal. the only way to convincingly copy this look is to make the wheels multi-piece (or possibly riveting a polished flange behind the spokes of a 1 piece wheel)... making them multi-piece would make them cost prohibitive and simply casting them in one piece and polishing the flange sections while painting the face parts would not be easily made to look convincing.
http://i242.photobucket.com/albums/f...xoo/wheel1.jpg
since the flange is polished it shines as much as the lips and is actually very noticable even from a distance:
http://i242.photobucket.com/albums/f...oo/IMG1454.jpg
additionally, the way the face disc exposes the barrel flange from the front by the thin spokes of the wheel, you can see the pierce bolts go all the way through w/ fasteners on the rear of the flange... nobody that knocks off wheels bothers to fake the rear fasteners because most wheels designs don't easily show those when the wheels are mounted:
http://i242.photobucket.com/albums/f...nons110007.jpg
lastly that all metal valve stem visibly goes through the flange and face and "floats" in a hole not touching the face or flange then bends 90 degrees to go into the barrel at a point behind the flange... another detail not worth knocking off as it is also cost prohibitive:
http://www.shop.upgrademotoring.com/...alve-stem-.jpg
http://i242.photobucket.com/albums/f...oo/IMG1454.jpg
This is such a hot G. That looks dam good.
I have to say , you guys had made a point about the replica wheels, but, not everybody have the money to buy Volks, Rays or BBS; and its clear the quality of the wheels its very important, but even a quality brand can get broken in a given moment. I'm not saying it something of less importance, just, that we can discuss fo a year how good a high quality, expensive brand is; and is like discuss how wet is the water. I wolud love to have a set of Volk TE37, but I dont have the money, so, a good afordable set have to do for the time being.
Reelax you alcoholic.... posting up next to BevMo. LoL.
personally I feel if you can afford to rock nice wheels then do so. if you can't, then save and wait for a bargain. I see people rush to get wheels because they can't wait to save. in California, if you rock replicas. you get laughed at no matter what. yeah cali people are brand whores lol. me personally have not spent anything more than 1000 bucks on my wheels with the exception of the volks when I had my g35 and I have works, ssr, 5zigen and bbs in my garage. I've seen 18 inch te37's. go as low as 1500
with tires and that's a real bargain. you just gotta be patient. screw all the lil gadgets people put into their cars. think of the money you would have saved if u didn't buy that crap and saved for strictly wheels. wheels make the car. everything else is an accessory.
1. they wouldn't know the difference but alot of us would spot it immediately.
2. you're kidding right? if there was a cheap version of the VOLK SF-WINNING it would be a very popular knockoff, but since it is not that easy to copy, the knockoff doesn't exist. not every wheel is easy to copy.
as a wheel collector, comparing te, ce, se. with the sf line is completely off. you're comparing a track wheel to a show wheel. in no way sf winnings a track wheel. btw sf winning are classy. when I had mine, people would always offer trades or make cash offers. I've been in the wheel game since 93, and trust me I've seen trends come and go. sf winnings may not be the most sought out wheel at the moment but give it a couple years and they will be sought after again when people don't see it around as much. look at vs-xx, those are getting played out like gold wheel color. even 3 piece rs-betas were hot then got played out and now they're hot again. reelax has been in the game probably longer than me and he got a wheel that made his car classy. it'll still be classy after all these trends pass.
Being classy and sought after doesn't mean everybody needs to like them or want them. And i understand they're different types of wheel, I'm correct in saying they aren't as well known though
if you were in the game 4-5 years ago, that rim was a very sought after wheel. probably top 3 wheels to get back then. I'm sorry but there's people who know wheels and then there's people who actually have rocked them and traded wheels like baseball cards. this is the one pet peeve I have with people who claim they are wheel buffs. unless you've owned these wheels or rocked a multitude of wheels over seeing them in magazines and cutting them out unto your own car, or seeing it in blogs that make them popular,then you are not a true wheel guy.
TSW has several wheels that copy the Volk SF Winnings. They certainly have had copies made over the years. Mesh wheels are incredibly popular, and likely always will be as such they will all have copies. So, really you all three of you are right. There are a LOT of knock off wheels that copied Auto Couture, but I'd guess most have never heard of them. I've been selling wheels for about 10 years now, and I can support that high end wheels can't get copied 100% by cheap companies just by the engineering stand point. But I think that Blue8g means that the style is copied, not necessarily the entire wheel. It might be a 90% copy of the SF Winnings (TSW Donnington).
still one of my favorite designs:
Volk SF Challenge
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...3T/billet8.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...T/100_0404.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...t/100_0902.jpg
challenges are very classy and aggressive. always a great wheel!!
You said there are a lot of people who'd notice the differences between the SF-Winning and I simply stated that not nearly as many people would notice the difference between SF-Winning and a rep versus say a TE37 and a rep.
@Drones: So if I haven't had a bunch of sets of wheels I don't know wheels? Well I guess its a good thing in the last two years I've owned:
-G-Games Sidewinders by Ray's
-BBS RG-R
-Enkei RCT1
-Volk TE37
-Ray's Garcia Tune Cal Choppy's
-SSR Competition
there is no convincing SF-Winning rep... so much for your comparison. and the original point you made you are now avoiding... you said "EVERY wheel is easily copied" but offered no proof. everything you state is according to your opinion because you "know" what you are talking about; too bad your opinion doesn't hold much weight because your experience is still very limited.
and which of those wheels you've had are muti-piece show wheels?
None of them, however the Cal Choppy's are world's rarer than the SF-Winning and are a multi-piece show wheel in a sense.
Convincing to you: There aren't any.
Just like there are no convincing reps of the TE37, to me.
If you love a wheel and have owned it, a rep won't fool you.
But would 99.9% of car enthusiasts be fooled by a decent rep of the SF-Winning, sans the little polished bit? YES.
really? even more credibility loss for that. GT Cal Choppy's are little wheels that are not in the same realm... those are for tiny cars. multi-piece? a moon cover or trim ring counts as multi-piece to you? you are really reaching.
again, nothing backed up. all your opinion, which means very little. less than 2 years ago you were still asking us basic remedial questions about wheels, fitment and suspension, and now you've supposedly become a seasoned wheel collector w/ impeccable taste and the knowledge to state what 99.9% of enthusiasts see? come on. even this thread title is an attempt to try to convince everyone that you are more knowledgeable and experienced than you are... "Best Wheel For 8G"? who are you to tell anyone what the best is? i understand if you named it "great wheels for 8G" but you chose to use the word BEST as if you were the authority. a little presumptuous don't you think?
16's are for tiny cars? Damn. They must make Donk Kei cars in Japan. I got rid of them for the same reason I sold my TE37's, 16's were too big for my Civic and that's not a Kei car.
I know they're not a true multi-piece wheel, that comment was an attempt to lighten the tension of the last few posts.
However, if you think that Choppy's are even remotely a 'track wheel' you should stop posting about wheels. For ever.
They were cast, they were heavy, the caps were even heavy. As a show wheel on the other hand:
-Rare, From my research there are only a couple sets of them in the US
-Eye catching
Aren't those the biggest keys to a show wheel? And the Choppy's had those by the truckload.
And please show me the huge numbers of people that have Cal Choppys. I'd LOVE to see them. And if you come across pictures of them on a green 4 door Integra...that's my set.
And if you're going to say the SF-Winnings are rare...well let's see a wheel that hasn't been available for 10+ years vs a wheel that was available up until well into last year.
Yeah SF-Winnings are HELLARARE BRAH
And the thread is for EVERYONE's opinion on the best wheel for the 8g. Not mine specifically, not yours, anyone who wanted to post could.
Also, if you're such a wheel god, why are you the one who has owned Konigs? I fail to find any shitty wheels in my history, I seem to find 1 part shit and 1 part nice in your history. Just like I see shitty suspension in your past, and of the stuff I've bought, none of that.
Yeah, I did ask questions, a lot of them. But guess what, I remembered the answers to those questions; when I see pictures of other member's cars and see the specs I remember those and can extrapolate how similar fitments will fit.
Am I a 'wheel god'? No, not by any means. But do I know more than most? Probably. Do I know more than is necessary or even desirable? Probably.
As to my credibility in your eyes:
Sorry but that really doesn't mean much to me.
O for the love of God, will you guys stop getting into a PISSING MATCH???? WHo gives a shit? Really, you both like wheels, you both have different opinions, just go your separate ways. The thread is being ruined by this argument
go back and read. where did i say that Cal Choppy's are not rare, and that SF-WINNING's were? you r confusing yourself because that';s not even the point of what we were talking about. the whole point we were arguing is that according to you EVERY wheel is easily copied. you keep running away from that now. so you resort to throwing KONIGs my way... you would have bought TENZO's if we hadn't let you know, plus those KONIGs were off my car before you even had a license; i now use those wheels as an example of why not to get knockoffs. shitty suspension? i had the first set of lowering springs on this platform as they were the prototypes for H&R, have you ever had to prototype for a new platform when there is next to nothing available? my car was dropped before the 3G eclipse was released... even before their was a galant board on the internet (pre-TGC). this car has 10+ years of history and this is not my first car... you have 2 years in the game and if you haven't made mistakes it's because of others telling you what a mistake you were about to make; i didn't have that luxury.
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-PCGZqmI7t_...ara+Varone.jpg
A nice set!! Now everyone's happy!!
All I know is if ever I'm in need of serious wheel advice I'm going to first check with Fire(Reelax) and Ice(Blue8g). Se let's kick back and post some mean ass wheels for TGC to Fap to.
^^^Thanks Valpen. As I was googling the chick as I was reading the argument. So I had to post, Would have posted her nudies but I didn't want to turn this into a NWS boobs thread.
Blitz 03. One super awesome wheel that looks good on EVERYTHING, but a pita to keep clean
http://media.ziptied.com/members/fil...003%20pair.jpg
^^^That IS nice...reminds me of the wheels on a F50.
With the 787 still in my head, The wheels on it. OMFG!
I know single lug magnesium, but 17 x 14.75 = Fap.
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-jyaJie_Y3G..._RearWheel.png
Thanks goodness! An 8g wheel thread =)
Can anybody here identify the wheels on these 8gs?
8g No.1
http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a2...5/ralliart.jpg
http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a2.../ralliart1.jpg
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8g No.2
http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a2...7675/svr41.jpg
http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a2...7675/svr42.jpg
http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a2...7675/svr47.jpg
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8g No.3
http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a2...675/rally1.jpg
Thanks in advance! :wink:
http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a2...7675/svr47.jpg
Why would you post this pic, this ruined my morning :(