Oooh that does look close. I can check the yard tomorrow if it doesnt rain, they may or may not have a 1.8L Mirage though :/
1g CAS:
http://www.roadraceengineering.com/e...cas-180out.jpg
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Oooh that does look close. I can check the yard tomorrow if it doesnt rain, they may or may not have a 1.8L Mirage though :/
1g CAS:
http://www.roadraceengineering.com/e...cas-180out.jpg
:shock: ..Great Find da1085, that looks like it has more of a chance compared to a SOHC 64 distributor...MUCH better. Only issue is if the firing order is the same and if the plugs to the harness are the same. :-| Hope you have some luck and time Seth to find one in a junk yard...I won't since I am moving this weekend.Quote:
Originally Posted by da1085
firing order should be the same, if its not, all you wodl need to do is move the boots around on the distributor.
the plugs are most likely going to be different, and if thats the case, all need be done is cut the wire from the junkyard distributor.
obstacles yes, but not large ones by any means.
crosses fingers for the frugal dohc hopefulls
I see we are gettung closer and closer to having the answer.
Quote:
Originally Posted by seth98esT
this is a nice picture of the CAS Seth!!
i spent like hours looking for one online and the one i found wasn't even as good of a picture as yours...
LOL...i've had my fingers crossed from the beginning of this thread lol......i'm tryin to locate a yard in my city since im like 2 hours away from the yard i used to go and get things.....
4-G-Rim good luck on moving in!
as for the me, i'm just going to hope that seth or someone can try this on and find out if it fits.
egh the agony of waiting, its just like when you order something via ups.
i also am of high hopes for this thread, i have a yard with a talon 4g63 head waiting for me...
distributor or DIS you should be doing the headswap anyways.Quote:
Originally Posted by jake26
just do it.
Quote:
Originally Posted by DOHCstunr
yeah, saving up money now for it, i just bought that 600 dollar ticket to go to ireland to visit my brother :)
92-94ish 1.8L Mirage Distributor will not fit in a 4g63 head. Pics:
http://img241.imageshack.us/img241/2...age1141da3.jpg
http://img241.imageshack.us/img241/6...age1142gj6.jpg
http://img241.imageshack.us/img241/2...age1143nf7.jpg
http://img241.imageshack.us/img241/8...age1144gv0.jpg
http://img241.imageshack.us/img241/6...age1145gd1.jpg
Maybe an older Mirage?
This is of a 4g15 from a Dodge Colt, it used a dist, doesnt look to be the same patternt. I couldnt check as the Dist was already
http://img241.imageshack.us/img241/2...age1146kt5.jpg
so any other ideas?? maybe the 1.5L mirages lol.....i can't think of any other cars that might have a smaller distributor
i am done looking at this topic i am buying a head and few parts i should be DOHC within months!
ok...i might get flamed for this idea..
i looked at some Honda distributors and they look kinda close....they have the 3 mounting but we might be able to just use 2 of them.....the early 90's civic and accords are the one i looked at(online lol)......
i just really want to get this thing going lol....
well i gues......FLAME ON.....
PS......the 1.5 mirrage seems to be smaller distributor than the 1.8......it's ebay lol....
i was wondering... is there any way to possibly, dismantle a distributor and a cam angle sensor. then combine the two? basically take the bottom of the cam angle sensor and mount the distributor in top of it. don't they essentially work the samew way?
i haven't seen either one in front of me at the same time, so this may be a stupid question.
I have a 94 1.5 mirage in my back yard....................... If you guys want me to take pics ill go and see if i can take the Distributor out (if the car isnt wasp infested.. im HIGHLY allergic to them) and ill take pics...
Theres not a way to take apart the distributor other then the cap and rotor. The mount and everything is all one peice.
even if you could,Quote:
Originally Posted by Blue Ice
by the time you did all that,
it woudl have just as difficult to do the legit headswap ecu DIS and all.
might as well go all out.
What would be the gains of this swap? if it's worth it all u need is the new head? I am new to the whole modifing thing, but if this could make my 7G better and worth it iwould do it.
welcome dude!
Come on bronx, you didnt answer his question...
DOHC should yield you ~20 crank hp over SOHC. ALso the DOHC head flows more, will see more hp throughout the entire RPM range, and you will have better acesss on parts for building the head.
Well i didnt wanna tell the noob to use the search, but that is the first thing they should do is read the forum rules and regulations. Then the tutorial sections etc............then last but not least start asking away with the questions.
Ok...I finally got some pics and I hope this finalizes that the 4G64 SOHC distributor will not bolt up to the 4G63 DOHC head.
1. (Left) 4G63 DOHC cylinder with a 1g CAS in front of it (Right) 4G64 SOHC cylinder head with distributor
http://img154.imageshack.us/img154/3...ompare6ix7.jpg
2. Comparison between the 1g CAS (Left) and the 4G64 Distributor(Right)
http://img182.imageshack.us/img182/5...ompare2pt9.jpg
3. Another comparison of the CAS and Distributor
http://img182.imageshack.us/img182/6...ompare3qj4.jpg
4. 4G64 SOHC distributor along side the spot where the 4G63 CAS would bolt to in the intake cam. Notice the diameter of the distributor and the diameter of the DOHC intake opening.
http://img182.imageshack.us/img182/1...comparert5.jpg
5 Here is a pic of WHY the 4G64 distributor will not work on the 63 DOHC head. Notice its much too big for the opening and length wise too.
http://img182.imageshack.us/img182/2...ompare4aj9.jpg
Another angle
http://img135.imageshack.us/img135/8...ompare5jt6.jpg
6. This is a side by side picture of the 4G63 head (left) and the 4G64 head (right) side by side. Compare the diameter of the opening where the CAS and Distributor would fit. The 4G64 cylinder head opening is MUCH larger.
http://img135.imageshack.us/img135/7...ompare7jp3.jpg
So there are my pics explaining why it won't work.
Yah, 1.8L mirage dist is smaller, but still not small enough.
so i guess the guy never got it working....just thought he would
Yah he was a big fat liar(unless he swapped to coil packs) as theres no way the 1.8L dist will fit let alone the 2.4L dist.
so where is the info explaining the coil pack rewire in depth. Can you list a couple of sights with this info?
I guess by looking at this picture, the rewire shouldn't be too hard... just four wires?
http://img182.imageshack.us/img182/6...ompare3qj4.jpg
https://www.thegalantcenter.org/index...0307&hl=jip
JiPs tutorial is pretty good. Colors may vary depending on year, but the pins should be the same(maybe not on the ECU between 97/98, but comparable).
If your wanting to stay NA, you would want to use a 94 GS ECU or a 2g Spyder GS ECU.
wow and he was like " i got it working guys" bull crap, he was just jerking our chain....
I say a public banning of the guy who lied to us. Someone get his address I will meet you all there. :firedevil:
he lives somewhere in VA, i say seth is the closest to him heheheh
Quote:
Originally Posted by jjmoneydawg
Thats just messed up :laughing: :laughing: :laughing: :laughing:
Well guys I just read through all these pages just to get let down like the rest of you. I'm wondering if a distributor from another car (non mitsu) could work? There has got to be one somewhere that will fit the DOHC head. Next time I'm at the junk yard I think I'll do some test fitting and see what I can come up with.
i live in va as wellQuote:
Originally Posted by jake26
so therefor there is no easy way of modding ur G
AND I LIVE IN VA TOO!!!
Jeez, whered all you VA guys come from?
The wiring for the swap is not hard by any means. Its a handful of wires. I say removing the old head and reinstalling the new one is harder, and its not hard at all, just some physical work.
wiring really is easy.
if you knwo yoru way around your engine bay, i'd say i could actually have all the wiring done in about 2.5-3 hours max....and i mean MAX.
assuming you are starting from a 96-98.
ok.....i've read the ECU swap needed to go to traditional eclipse DOHC swap....it said we have to use 450cc injectors....also we have to have an AFC to control the fuel....is there any way to just swap heads and ecu but dont get the AFC?? im asking because one of those are like half the total price of the swap....
If your staying NA use the 2g GS Spyder ECU or the 94 GS Galant ECU, both are setup for NA and coilpacks.
yeah no doubt.
i forgot about that. if you are a 94-95, then you ust need a GS ecu and the wiring is very minimal after that.
literally just wire up the cam angle sensor, and the coilpacks, and ignitor.
simple
oh, and of course you will want to wire up the knock sensor so you can make use of 93 octane and its timing capabilities.
Man you've all been had. Thats messed up...maybe his car blew up
so im guessing the 97-98 will have to go to gst ecu, SAFC, 450cc and more money than 94 guys??