What i am trying to say is when i go to use the 2g ECU will it be Plug And Play Or NO
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no
it has been said millions of times before, but ill make it clear for you.
If your Galant was made btween 94-95 you can use 1g turbo ecu
If your Galant was made in 96-98 you can use 2g turbo ecu.
Both Eclipse ECUs use coil packs instead of distributor. If you swap to any Eclipse ECUs youll need to get rid of distributor.
The 1g ecu is not a closer swap. Regardless of whether you use a 1g or 2g ecu, you're gonna be in a world of rewiring with a 94-95. The 7Gb is the only remotely close swap, being that there's only 4 wires to redo when swapping to a 2g ecu.
Stickied.
you're problem is you need to use punctiation when you post. Allow me to elaborate;
? = at the end of a question
. = at the end of a statement
! = when you're really excited about something
Start with those, and then when you've mastered that we'll talk about using quotations"", commas,, and parenthesis( )
7gB will work will all 7g's.
actually a few more than 4 wires, and it depends on how stock you want the setup to be.
you'll have to add the wires for the power transistor ~ 6
wires for the coil pack 2 or 3
wires for the CAS = 4
if you go with a 2g ecu and a 1g CAS you'll need to do the Magnus 1g in a 2g
(which requires you to re arrange injector wires at the ecu, change the phase at the coil pack, and change the spark plug wire setup)
while trying to get my swap to run better i've been looking at the vacuum hoses.
The N/A 4g63 runs vacuum straight from the manifold to the FPR.
4g63T's use a fuel pressure selonoid between the manifold and FPR.
This all sounds like a lot...
but is actually pretty straight forward if you have the parts in front or you. I suggest to pull the wiring harness completely and add the additional wires needed. ( just not the way i did it with all the wires everywhere)
left out the wire for the knock sensor and the boost control solenoid
Doah!!
knock sensor +2
boost conrtrol Selonoid + 2 (unless you go with a manual boost controller, or other aftermarket controller)
both of these have one wire going to the ecu and one to a 12v source ( which will be just about any solid red wire) inside the harness
I believe there will be a lot of boosted 7G's next year.
there damn well ought to be. I'm sick of this shit.
sohc n/a FTL!!!!!
So let me ask this 1 think do you think? we would get close to the 160 HP.
highly doubt it. although you'd have the superior airflow characteristics of the DOHC motor, and the performance cam options, as well as afttermarket support(valve springs, retainers, intake manifolds, etc etc)
You would not have the superior fuel maps, or timing maps/electronic advance that is provided by the GS or 2g turbo ecu.
However I can garuntee you will see a wider powerband than before. it will make more power sooner, and over a wider range of RPMs than your SOHC setup does.
Kool im give my guy a call at the shop and tell him to do over the head with the hks cams Stage 1
its pretty easy, all you will need is a head gasket, some headstuds(because you can't reuse your stock ones), a head and an intake manifold, the DOHC timming belt, and lastly the distributor.
I bet under my wrenches.... i could do this swap in under 3 hours easy.
You would also have to plug these oil drain openings also on the 4G64 block.
http://www.4g64.com/users/raycer97/oilholes.jpg
hmmmm. I have always been curious....
if the 4g64 dohc block doesn't have those drain holes..... .and the dohc 4g64 head doesn't have those drain holes..... then why would the 4g64 dohc headgasket have them?
I.E. if the gasket doesn't have those holes.... then you wouldn't need to blockoff anything since the gasket already does it.
Hmmm. i wonder. Maye I'll go out to the garage and look at the head in my GS headswap, to see if the holes are in those locations.
^ Good ass point, never thought about it that way.
Some areas of the headgasket only slightly overlap those drain holes. I think it's more of a safety issue to ensure that the gasket seals perfectly.
My concern with this swap is the ECU management. For 94-95, there is the 95 Cali spec eprom ECU but for the 96-98, what ECU to use other that the stock one?
would jsut have to have fun with piggy-backs
SO went and got a mirage distributor today. ill see what the machine shop can do for me.
i'll do i it this weekend
Hmmm I'm certain that those holes aren't in the 4g64 DOHC block as the DOHC head is physically identical to the 4g63 DOHC head minus the internals. Regardless, I would still plug those holes. Although they aren't pressurized, I'd still hate to see the headgasket fail due to it not sealing properly with those gaps in place.
After looking at an image of mine, the headgasket will cover about 50% of each of the holes, leaving the other 50% of each hole exposed. Although OEM gaskets are awesome, I wouldn't take the risk of blowing the headgasket because I was too lazy to just block the holes easily.
Has anyone attempted this yet?
nope.
im broke after Christmas, ill do it when I can. I think Im getting another 7g with less miles and better body.
disapointed...
i Think i am go with it and see how it runs before rebuilding the other block i just got.
John you want to help me?? Seriously if i can get some help then we should do it. I still dont know wat direction my car is really going lol. there is so much floating around and so much that i can do. still thinking about picking up a 4g63 block and building the bottom end, maby a stroker kit. lol (which would be fun.) But i think if i had some people helping me along the way with this idea i could pull it off.
im down 2 do this as i should be getting the head, intake mani and such in the next week or so.. all i need to know is exactly what i need and a little help.
what kinda head you got?^^^
2g head
ok im down than tell me when i have Wednesday and fridays off
dude i got parts all over my house for my turbo an headswap. i need to stop dicking around and finish this and the GS.
do the 2.4 DOHC there is no reason to get another block. slowboy sell pistons for just this swap. your rods you got now are identical to the 2G and EVO rods
I have most of the parts sitting right now in my garage now. Lets see, I have the head from my 1g. I just have to cap those holes on the block. I have the stock turbo from my 1g, I have the down pipe. Do I really need to change the gears to the 7g DOHC? are the 1g gears the same diameter? I guess I need a turbo oil pan from a 2g. I take it my 1g oil pan will not work. Some ARP head studs and a head gasket and I will be good to go. Did I miss anything?
The 4G64 has a higher deck height compared to a 63. You could run the 63 cam gears, but you will have to set the timing negative TDC.(Not sure how many teeth though) Its a bit of a hassle and I would be more comfortable using the Mitsu TDC marks....I would buy the 64 cam gears for the peace of mind.
Yes you need a 2g oil pan...I believe the 1g has a different amount of screw holes.