As I've mentioned before,I put on an intake & a strut brace in the short time I've had the '99.To improve handling & get the best results for the money,should I go with the AADCO sway bar thats just been offered,or go with lowering springs 1st?
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As I've mentioned before,I put on an intake & a strut brace in the short time I've had the '99.To improve handling & get the best results for the money,should I go with the AADCO sway bar thats just been offered,or go with lowering springs 1st?
i say lower it.. and than u might wanna think about getting the d3 stiffering kit.. i do not have it but i heard awsome things about it so.. will get it b summer.. it was like 250 shipped
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(neel9)</div><div class='quotemain'>i say lower it.. and than u might wanna think about getting the d3 stiffering kit.. i do not have it but i heard awsome things about it so.. will get it b summer.. it was like 250 shipped</div>That price doesnt sound bad at all.Anyone on the G.Center install one? I think it might be less expensive than springs?
ok springs will run about 200 and yes.. many people have the d3 stiffering kit or whatever they call it.. u can ask Danger_Danj and some other as they have it.. so... i say do springs and than the d3 kit.. i have progress so. i love it but i wanna lower it more so.. but drives nice.so..
yeh, i heard the best thing u can do to improve handling is new springs and shocks
Yeah,OK,I think just getting it lower will help quite a bit in cornering.Then the frame stiffening if needed,& when I've got the cash.Other than some leaning,getting it to take corners tight,I think this 99 GTZ I just got drives pretty nice.I've got a Magneflow muffler on my list right now,too,that I was going to stick on the end of my stock exhaust for now.A Dynomax catback will be coming sometime in the future
Definitely go with lowering springs before anything else suspension wise. Of course you should add to that some aftermarket shocks/struts as well. The D3 kit is a good upgrade, but I'd say you might be better off getting a thicker rear sway bar first. I would have done that first myself if there was one out that fit the Galant when I got the D3 kit.
i have a sway bar from megan racing.. what u mean by thicker? whioch is a good one?
if i were to do it again i would have just bought the TEIN SS-P from the beginning... of course it wasn't out yet, but that's how much better the car handles now!
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(maximus99)</div><div class='quotemain'>Yeah,OK,I think just getting it lower will help quite a bit in cornering.Then the frame stiffening if needed,& when I've got the cash.Other than some leaning,getting it to take corners tight,I think this 99 GTZ I just got drives pretty nice.I've got a Magneflow muffler on my list right now,too,that I was going to stick on the end of my stock exhaust for now.A Dynomax catback will be coming sometime in the future</div>
I have some Sprint lowering springs (1.8" drop) that will fit nicely on your car... $175 shipped
I'd say save $$$ and get the Tein SS-P. Not only will you have adjustability in being able to drop it up to 2.6 inches, you'll have control over the damping, which means you can adjust how stiff the ride is. It'll set you back a little coin, but in the long run would be worth it. A cheaper way to go would be the KYB AGX + springs.
doesn't that tein setup come with a pillowball uppermount?
pillow ball mount is much more precise than bushing mount. will make a world of difference on wheel hop. Most pillow ball upper mounts also have built in camber plates.
i'd be patient, save a little more money and go that route.
another major difference is the length of the rod on a true coilover setup. when you lower your stock struts or even kybs, you are limited on the amount of suspension travel your shock can survive because you are closer to bottoming out the strut, with every inch you lower it.
but most true coilovers have shorter rods. so you will still have full suspension travel at lower ride hieghts, without the risk of bottoming out and blowing your seals.
if you lower your ground control more than 1.75, you better ride at maximum dampening(stiffness) at all times to keep from bottoming out your struts(you are going to have to anyways to keep from bouncing). coilover system damage voids the lifetime warranty on kyb and koni. It says so right on the instructions.
if you are serious about long term performance, and a quality, precice and fully adjustable ride, go with the teins.
i believe you can also adjust the rebound rate to tune the bounce out.
am i right?
also, if you want your turns to be as responsive as a go-kart, get some better sway bars. it will eliminate every last bit of lean you car has after you lower it. It will aslo make your steering react instantly to your input. But i wouldn't recomend them to an unseasoned driver.
Are you sure you are talking about a sway bar and not a strut bar or a tie bar. They are all different. I looked at Megan Racing's site and didn't see any sway bars. The only rear sway bar that I know of for sure that fits the Galant is the one from Addco which I test fitted. Click here for the tutorial that I did for it.Quote:
Originally Posted by neel9
There is a rear sway bar from Suspension Techniques for the 3G Eclipse which can fit on the 8G Galant if you cut or bang flat the jack point on the spare tire well.
Then, there is a front and rear sway bar set from RMDSM that I wanted to get because many 3G Eclipse guys love it, but I figured it wouldn't fit either without modifying the jack point on the spare tire well, but I think it might actually fit. Right after I put on the Addco bar, I posted over at 2GStratus.org since they have the same problem with the jack point, but someone there said that the RMDSM rear bar fit fine. I wish I would have known that a long time ago because I would have tested those bars out. Click here for the RMDSM bars.
Both the Suspension Techniques and Addco rear sway bars are 22mm. The RMDSM set is 24mm in the rear and 17.5 mm in the front. Having a rear bar that is thicker helps reduce understeer.
Yeah, for real. The best thing I ever did to my Galant.Quote:
Originally Posted by Reelax
Yup, myself, Cali and Reelax all have the SS-P setup which has the pillow ball upper mounts.Quote:
Originally Posted by DOHCSTUNR
Here is my front:
http://www.dangerdanj.com/tein_pbum.jpg
Wheres the best site to find the Tien SS-P? Or the KYB AGX's? I really dont want to slam it down too far,but somewhere between an inch to 1.5 in. would be good? Like I said,I am not familiar with these cars yet,& dont really know whats out there for them,or the best quality equipment.I just dont want to jump into it,get something,then find out I shoulda went another direction.I just lowered my 79 vette about 1.5 inches,put in composite springs front a rear,& a lower shock mount spreader bar,poly bushings, 245-45-17" Kumho's on American Racing TT2's,wood console trim,etc https://www.thegalantcenter.org/styl...ult/tongue.gif
than just get springs as it not as low. but i do not know... may better to gtet if u want good handling... i geuss
You can get the KYB AGX for 335 shiped from Jessica over at club3g. They have a group buy going on. I just ordered the Eibach Prokit and the KYB GR2 for $415 shipped. I should have them by this weekend.Quote:
Originally Posted by maximus99
Quote:
Originally Posted by devgrp
hey are gr-2 any good.. cause i am thinking about getting them but every one is talking about agx. so.. let me know.
Get the Energy suspension bushings for the 3g Eclipse if they make them. You will notice a big improvement.
hey ok.. what are bushing.. people have mentioned it bu no clue what it is... is it something which is locatd between the pillow mount and the shocks and spring or??... and when i get the shocks and springs or coilovers... do they come with it or rell them to put in some new ones?
Are you saying GR-2's are the better choice,or you liked the price better? Whats the link or address to Club3g? club3g.com? The Eibach prokit springs? R they adjustable,& how much are they said to lower a Galant? Thanks for the help... 8)Quote:
Originally Posted by devgrp
i think teh prokit lower about 1.2 or something and teh sprotline lowers about 2.0.. .. i have progress and they lower 2.2 but still not low enough for me.. so.. and if ur aim is to fill in the gap u wnana lower more kind of..
The GR-2s are non adjustable, the AGXs are. The AGX cost more money and they are supposedly better. I do not need the adjustabilty so I'm going for second best which are the GR2s.Quote:
Originally Posted by maximus99
The Eibach sprints are not adjustable, for that you need to get coilovers.
Thanks.So many choices,so little cash.I'm also trying to get my Vette ready for a couple shows this year :roll: https://www.thegalantcenter.org/styl...ault/wacko.gif
hey danj.. whtas is the black knob/switch in the middle.. ?Click here
Yes, there are many choices, but not alot if you know what kind of ride you want. Are you looking for a drop that will close up as much of the wheel gap as possible? Do you want the best handling as possible and don't care how stiff the ride is and how many bumps you can feel?Quote:
Originally Posted by maximus99
Simply, if you are just looking to upgrade your handling, don't want a real stiff ride, and don't care how much of the fender gap is eliminated, go with some springs like the Eibach Pro Kit or H&R. Add to that the KYB GR-2s and you are all set. I really wouldn't bother with the KYB AGXs unless you want to be able to set the dampening stiffer. But then the ride gets a little rougher. If you go with a more aggressive drop, like closer to 2" or more, then I'd say get yourself some AGXs. With that kind of drop, you have less suspension travel and you have more of a chance of bottoming out. So, that's where you'd want the AGXs, so you can set the dampening to a stiffer setting which will help keep the car from bottoming out. The GR-2s can still be used, but I would only get those with an aggressive drop if I only cared about how my car looks lowered rather than how well it handles. But, then if you said you wanted that much of a drop, I'd just tell you to get some Tein coilovers and forget everything else as long as you aren't worried about a stiff ride.
Huh? What knob and which picture are you reffering to on that page?Quote:
Originally Posted by neel9
here .. the black switch like in the middle??
http://www.dangerdanj.com/tein_pbum.jpg[/quote]
so danj, are you saying that the GR-2's will make the ride as comfortable as the AGX's on the softest settings? cuz if i did anything with springs/shocks, i want to keep the ride as comfortable as possible.
got this from club 3g...
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From: KYB
Date: 2004/08/03 Tue PM 03:24:50 EDT
To: Cameron
Subject: RE: [KYB.COM Contact Form] Dampening Rate
The AGX products have the following approximate damping force values.
When adjusted, both rebound and compression damping forces change.
Setting#:
Relative Value
1 - Same as Factory (100%)
2 - Same as our GR2 products (10~15% firmer than Factory --115%)
3 - 50% firmer than #2 (172%)
4 - 30% firmer than #3 (223%)
For an eight position adjustable product, the damping force values are
approx. the following: With #2 being Factory at a relative value of 100,
#1 = 95 (5% softer than Factory)
#2 = 100 (Factory damping force)
#3 = 107.5 (7.5% firmer than Factory)
#4 = 115 (15% firmer than Factory)(GR-2)
#5 = 143.5 (43.5% firmer than Factory)
#6 = 172 (72% firmer than Factory)
#7 = 197.5 (97.5 firmer than Factory)
#8 = 223 (123 % firmerthan Factory)
aww man, looks like my list is growing. too bad i made a vow to myself that i wont buy any more stuff for my car until i get a job :cry:
Looks really good.I asked about their group buy,havent had any replys.Quote:
Originally Posted by pinoyesv6
Oh, well that black thing is a cover. You pull that black cover off and then you'll see the adjustment knob for controlling the damper level. The KYB AGXs have something similar.Quote:
Originally Posted by neel9
that is cool that it has the adjusting thing on top. i belive the agx has it on the bar right.. dont u have to remove ur wheel to adjust it?
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(neel9)</div><div class='quotemain'>that is cool that it has the adjusting thing on top. i belive the agx has it on the bar right.. dont u have to remove ur wheel to adjust it?</div>
Some KYB AGXs for other cars have the knob on the side where you have to remove your wheel, but the ones for the 3G Eclipse/8G Galant have the adjustment at the top... for both the front and the rear.
hey .. ok i ordered them and was wondering .. when i install them what is the perfect level to keep the shocks..i know firm is better but not sure.. what level to drive it at first.. than wil adjust it later.. please.. help
hey dave, how good do you think the handlig would be if i had some AGX's on a stiff setting like 3 or 4, but with stock springs?
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Danger DANJ)</div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(neel9)</div><div class='quotemain'>that is cool that it has the adjusting thing on top. i belive the agx has it on the bar right.. dont u have to remove ur wheel to adjust it?</div>
Some KYB AGXs for other cars have the knob on the side where you have to remove your wheel, but the ones for the 3G Eclipse/8G Galant have the adjustment at the top... for both the front and the rear.</div>Thats good,sounds like on our cars,adjustments will be easy to deal with,& quick.If I dont have the cash for shocks & springs at one time now,do you suggest getting just the AGX's or the Pro-kit springs 1st?
i say springs and than shocks.. doing both is good but if u like me .. have money issues.. than springs and than untill the hocks wear out.. after that get agx.. i got progres and used it fo about year and my shocks are i think about to blow.. so .. i egtting them by next week. .. u can save money and get it donw the line like me..
actually you will end up spending more money buying them separately, becuase u will have to pay for the springs installation, and then pay for the shocks installation. so u could save quite a bit of money getting them installed at the same time.