search over: SECURE push button start w/ RFID

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01-29-2010, 09:00 PM
ricky_db

search over: SECURE push button start w/ RFID
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the total package all for a low price of 295-475 depending on w/ alarm or not and the button style

How Does It Work? Glad you asked!
Walk to the vehicle with the key fob in your pocket (or purse, ladies) and when in range, your security system is disarmed, the doors unlock, and the ignition system becomes active. The range of StarDrive's RFID is approximately 8 feet (depending on the antenna location).
Slide behind the wheel, depress the brake pedal, and press the start / stop button to engage the motor.
Shutting off the engine is just as hassle-free. Come to a complete stop, depress the brake pedal, push the start / stop button, and the motor stops.
After stopping the engine, the Retained Accessory Power (RAP) keeps accessories like your radio and power windows active until the door is opened or after an elapsed time of 5 minutes.
Walk away and passive arming automatically sets your car alarm so you'll never forget again.
Security

Radio Frequency Identification, or RFID, is the new generation of intelligent bidirectional technology and auto electronic alarm systems. It's a dual-frequency wireless system, combined with code hopping and 64-bit encryption technology to avoid the electronic key from being duplicated and ensure security. StarDrive features include:
- Passive proximity "Smart Key" fob
- Bidirectional Passive Keyless:
  Max distance 5-8 ft
- Manual long-range lock / unlock, trunk release, and panic:
  Max distance 100 ft
- Door lock / unlock control relays onboard
- Starter kill
- Trunk release output
- Shock sensor
- 120db siren
StarDrive is Invisible to Thieves!
With StarDrive, your ignition cannot be picked since it has no keyholes or slots that anything can be inserted. From the outside, the system has only a button with a status light.
Start Button Status Lights
ACC light is on when the unit is in accessory only mode.
ON light is on when the ignition is on.
LOCK light shows the status of the alarm / security.
START / STOP ENGINE are illuminated when the unit is active. This is helpful in locating the button at night.
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01-29-2010, 09:15 PM
99 galant

Is there a way to go to the car without it starting? I know I always forget stuff in my car
01-29-2010, 09:15 PM
Ruslik

nice i like that
01-29-2010, 09:16 PM
stvn_mj

Nice. Let see if cali can start a GB for this. lol Looks cool though.
01-29-2010, 09:19 PM
ricky_db

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Originally Posted by 99 galant

Is there a way to go to the car without it starting? I know I always forget stuff in my car

yea it wont start till u hit the button it will go into acc mode though only till u walk away that is
01-29-2010, 09:21 PM
ricky_db

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Originally Posted by stvn_mj

Nice. Let see if cali can start a GB for this. lol Looks cool though.

that would be bad ass
02-05-2010, 06:44 PM
guynlidia2006

will this work with any car?
02-05-2010, 07:06 PM
Reelax

possible problem...

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What if my car has a locking column? Can I use StarDrive?
There is no easy bypass for a car that has a mechanical steering wheel lock, and it will need to be defeated if you want to have the keyless experience. Do so at your own risk!

The electronic style steering wheel lock can be modified to work with the system.

How do I remove the column lock?
Discuss your options with technicians that perform Steering Column Repair
02-05-2010, 09:05 PM
ricky_db

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Originally Posted by guynlidia2006

will this work with any car?

it should if installed right

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Originally Posted by Reelax

possible problem...

thats not the part im looking into, as rude as our locking system is that will be fixed in no time. im wondering about the transmiter in the key hole guess ile ask the 2000 and up 8 guys w/ remote start.
02-05-2010, 09:48 PM
KaziKai

ok.. my question is that.. since 8g.. has that chip in the key.. how would this work...
02-05-2010, 10:08 PM
ricky_db

proberbly the same way they put remote start on 8gs
02-06-2010, 07:38 AM
Reelax

Quote:

Originally Posted by ricky_db

it should if installed right

thats not the part im looking into, as rude as our locking system is that will be fixed in no time. im wondering about the transmiter in the key hole guess ile ask the 2000 and up 8 guys w/ remote start.

well for aftermarket remote start they either have to bypass the chip section completely or have a spare key w/ chip in a box that tells the car it is present. but remote start does not unlock the steering wheel, you still have to put the key in for that (don't know if the lock is mechanical or electronic)... that might be a problem unless you can figure out how to bypass that lock or remove it. just imagne you start the car w/ the push button w/ the RFID key fob inside the car, and you can't turn the wheel.

here's a pic of the immobilizer bypass box i was talking about... it requires a key w/ chip and is installed hidden):

http://pk.b5z.net/i/u/6000490/i/TBKAutoAlarmPro_ezr.JPG

come to think of it maybe the work-a-round is to relocate the key hole to somewhere hidden in the dash (like behind the console) and have a key inserted... that might bypass both ignition and steering locks, then have the RFID security take care of the ignition and and ignition interrupt (so the car isn't totally vulnerable).
02-09-2010, 09:06 PM
guynlidia2006

I think I am going to put this on my work car. I do road side asst and locksmithing I am in and out of the car for 16 hours a day. It will be so connivent for it to unlock with out doing anything and just push the button and go. I just wish the system wasent so much money, gonna start saving up.
02-09-2010, 11:14 PM
GOOSEY2099

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Originally Posted by Reelax

well for aftermarket remote start they either have to bypass the chip section completely or have a spare key w/ chip in a box that tells the car it is present. but remote start does not unlock the steering wheel, you still have to put the key in for that (don't know if the lock is mechanical or electronic)... that might be a problem unless you can figure out how to bypass that lock or remove it. just imagne you start the car w/ the push button w/ the RFID key fob inside the car, and you can't turn the wheel.

here's a pic of the immobilizer bypass box i was talking about... it requires a key w/ chip and is installed hidden):

http://pk.b5z.net/i/u/6000490/i/TBKAutoAlarmPro_ezr.JPG

come to think of it maybe the work-a-round is to relocate the key hole to somewhere hidden in the dash (like behind the console) and have a key inserted... that might bypass both ignition and steering locks, then have the RFID security take care of the ignition and and ignition interrupt (so the car isn't totally vulnerable).

Problem is that the column lock is mechanical on our cars. However on a lexus for example its electrical so we'd have to completely and permenatly disable it.

In reality if anyone REALLY wants to steal your car all you'd have to do is remove the immobilizer with ecuflash, ripout the ignition lock and turn it with the screw driver. All in all under 4min. The best systems are the ones you'll never read about online. Like 300,000volts up your ass if you don't turn the heater knob to 4 before turning one the ignition :)
02-10-2010, 02:43 AM
Reelax

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Originally Posted by GOOSEY2099

Problem is that the column lock is mechanical on our cars. However on a lexus for example its electrical so we'd have to completely and permenatly disable it.
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yeah that's the first problem i was referring to a few posts back... the steering wheel lock. the RFID system would b able to automate everything but that, and without putting the key into the ignition switch and turning it, the steering wheel would still be unusable.
02-10-2010, 09:15 AM
ricky_db

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Originally Posted by Reelax

yeah that's the first problem i was referring to a few posts back... the steering wheel lock. the RFID system would b able to automate everything but that, and without putting the key into the ignition switch and turning it, the steering wheel would still be unusable.

i know a locksmith / mechanic he said its no problem to get around the wheel lock this is proberbly going to be my project when i go home for leave i will try to put together a tutorial. but i have no plans on even having a key hole anymore all of it coming out and key hole will be abs sludged shut. shes not going to be my daily anymore so im not worried

Quote:

Originally Posted by GOOSEY2099

Problem is that the column lock is mechanical on our cars. However on a lexus for example its electrical so we'd have to completely and permenatly disable it.

In reality if anyone REALLY wants to steal your car all you'd have to do is remove the immobilizer with ecuflash, ripout the ignition lock and turn it with the screw driver. All in all under 4min. The best systems are the ones you'll never read about online. Like 300,000volts up your ass if you don't turn the heater knob to 4 before turning one the ignition :)

that would be a good idea if our ac wasnt mechanical. i have a couple of procedures to starting my car now anyways plus i have bags that im sure only me can understand at this point due to all the rigging and relays lol.
03-13-2010, 04:28 AM
ricky_db

Soooooo i went ahead and pulled the trigger on this.... hopefully it beats me home
03-13-2010, 08:00 AM
qnz

very cool. when will you be going home?
03-13-2010, 08:54 AM
OMEGA PHX

Quote:

Originally Posted by ricky_db

Soooooo i went ahead and pulled the trigger on this.... hopefully it beats me home

Nice looking forward to it.
03-13-2010, 10:15 AM
ricky_db

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Originally Posted by qnz

very cool. when will you be going home?

i get leave sometime next month :035:
09-19-2010, 09:45 PM
ricky_db

is my internet trippin or is this website busted?
10-30-2010, 01:27 PM
jubeiaire

so heres a question. the mitsubishi outlander from 07+ comes with keyless push button installed on all trims models. could we just use that and have the dealer program it?
10-30-2010, 02:00 PM
ricky_db

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Originally Posted by jubeiaire

so heres a question. the mitsubishi outlander from 07+ comes with keyless push button installed on all trims models. could we just use that and have the dealer program it?

im sure you could if you had the bankroll to do it. i seriously doubt the stealership will order all of the parts for the system and then just give them to you. and if their labor charges are the sasme as they usta its about 90 bucks a hr and i figure it will take them about a week to instal it lol

450 starting to look better? lol
10-30-2010, 04:16 PM
jubeiaire

i was referring to pulling one from a wrecked outlander and installing it ourselves then just paying mitsu for the two hours they need to program it to our ecu....1.5 hours mitsu bullshitting .5hrs doing programing
10-30-2010, 07:31 PM
Reelax

Quote:

Originally Posted by jubeiaire

i was referring to pulling one from a wrecked outlander and installing it ourselves then just paying mitsu for the two hours they need to program it to our ecu....1.5 hours mitsu bullshitting .5hrs doing programing

this idea would need much more research. problems include, mechanical wheel/column lock (the outlander version may be electronic and might or might not be swappable), full list of what is controlling or involved in the RF/relay/unlock (it most likely is not a single box like an aftermarket setup).
10-30-2010, 07:48 PM
Galantman03

isnt the wheel lock like pushing in the brake to take the gear selector from park to drive on the auto 8gs? why can we just like clip it lol
10-30-2010, 08:57 PM
deeznutz

there shouldn't be any problym with removing the wheel lock at all, besides if a good thief wants your car guess what 10 seconds to disengage it!!!
10-30-2010, 10:57 PM
Fresh_617

wellll months later this tread has been brought back to life did u get it installed?? =)
10-31-2010, 01:01 AM
Reelax

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Originally Posted by galantman03

isnt the wheel lock like pushing in the brake to take the gear selector from park to drive on the auto 8gs? why can we just like clip it lol

not exactly. the wheel lock is mechanically engaged when the ignition barrel is put to the off position and the key is removed. there my be a workaround that keeps it functional using a solenoid to mechanically disengage the lock via a signal from the RF ID system (essentially making it an electric mechanical wheel lock).
10-31-2010, 01:05 AM
Reelax

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Originally Posted by deeznutz

there shouldn't be any problym with removing the wheel lock at all, besides if a good thief wants your car guess what 10 seconds to disengage it!!!

well it's a double risk if it is removed completely since the ignition chip feature will already be disengaged. if there is a way to keep both security features intact, and both only override when the RF key fob is present, that would be the best solution; if both features are permanently overridden (removing most of the security built into the car), the car could be started and stolen w/ a small wire and driven away without the RF key fob present.
10-31-2010, 09:51 AM
deeznutz

Quote:

Originally Posted by Reelax

well it's a double risk if it is removed completely since the ignition chip feature will already be disengaged. if there is a way to keep both security features intact, and both only override when the RF key fob is present, that would be the best solution; if both features are permanently overridden (removing most of the security built into the car), the car could be started and stolen w/ a small wire and driven away without the RF key fob present.

Look at it this way if you don't have an ignition chip the only security you would have would be the ignition lock and only takes seconds to disengage. Now lets just say you stick this box way up in the dash so the only way to get at it is to remove the dash that would eliminate someone using a small wire to hot wire the car because all your ignition wires would be removed from the steering column and in the control for the fob system. Now that you don't have a steering lock what options does a thief have roll it away especially if your 5 speed or tow it... But in the end if they really want it they will get it so nothing is 100% secure!
10-31-2010, 03:15 PM
ricky_db

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Originally Posted by Fresh_617

wellll months later this tread has been brought back to life did u get it installed?? =)

yep its been installed for a while now
the alarm is kinda wimpy sounding
and my wife drives so much it drains batteries in about a month
10-31-2010, 03:23 PM
Reelax

Quote:

Originally Posted by deeznutz

Look at it this way if you don't have an ignition chip the only security you would have would be the ignition lock and only takes seconds to disengage. Now lets just say you stick this box way up in the dash so the only way to get at it is to remove the dash that would eliminate someone using a small wire to hot wire the car because all your ignition wires would be removed from the steering column and in the control for the fob system. Now that you don't have a steering lock what options does a thief have roll it away especially if your 5 speed or tow it... But in the end if they really want it they will get it so nothing is 100% secure!

of course security measures merely slow a thief down, they do not prevent loss if a thif is determined; conversely, removing security measures speeds things up for a thief. keyless entry and start are a cool convenient feature but i would still try to keep the stock features in tact and add layers like RFID instead of removing some in order to let the other work. i would not make a car easier to take. my car has independently powered alarm and custom starter interrupt but i know that that would not stop a thirf if they really wanted it, but it would slow them down having to look for it.
11-01-2010, 07:36 PM
deeznutz

Quote:

Originally Posted by ricky_db

yep its been installed for a while now
the alarm is kinda wimpy sounding
and my wife drives so much it drains batteries in about a month

Do you mean the batteries in the fob key? And what does she do when they die? Got a pic?
12-11-2010, 07:07 PM
ricky_db

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Originally Posted by deeznutz

Do you mean the batteries in the fob key? And what does she do when they die? Got a pic?

sorry for the late reply but yes i mean the key fob battery. when it goes dead she just calls me to let her in with my key fob and we head to walmart and get another one :orangesleepw: