New Key Idea for the 8g

Hey guys I have an idea. It may work or may not work. TRY THIS AT YOUR OWN RISK. My friend has a 03 Civic SI had the OEM key and the keyless remote separately like ours. But one day he got the idea getting at 03-04 Accord key that has the keyless remote on it. My friend got that key and got it cut. Then cut out the chip out of his original key and place it in the Accord key. It worked too!

Recently, I just saw the new (06) Eclipse GT has a remote built in with the key. So I think to myself maybe it is possible for our cars too. I just went to the mitsu dealer. They said they could cut it. But the key itself here costs $100. On the other hand the programing part they said it might work or might not work. Although, there is the possiblity of cutting out the chip out of the original key and it MIGHT work like my friend's case.
Only thing that is stopping me is that the key is a $100 (+80 programming not sure if it would work.) and I only have to two keys to my 8g. So I don't want to take the risk right now. But if one of you guys want to try this let me know if it works.

<<<AGAIN TRY THIS AT YOUR OWN EXPENSE AND RISK. I'AM ONLY PUTTING THE IDEA OUT>>>

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<span style="color:red">this is a Accord Key (I could not find a pic of the new eclipse key, its close to what it might look like)</span>

http://i3.ebayimg.com/01/i/000/79/ed/3ac9_1.JPG
OEM KEY

WHICH WOULD YOU PREFER?: : :spinner:

Looks cool, if it works I'm down. Here's the key to my Murano:

http://www.nissan.ca/en/vehicles/mur...lligentKey.jpg

It's a proximity key, I just touch the door handle and it unlocks and sets the seats and mirrors for me, and just turn the ignition knob and it starts...no "key" at all is needed! If you can get this in a Galant, I'll do your friggin' laundry!

I would love to change the key of my 8g.. Its kind of old school...

pinoeyesv6 was trying something like this but with the key that goes in liek the benz keys

Not all 8 G have a chip, so you wouldn't have to pay for programing...only cutting.

only the 1999 G's and older dont have the chip

Someone try this and then let me know if it works..

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(ChromeGalant)</div><div class='quotemain'>Someone try this and then let me know if it works..</div>

ur in iraq?

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Donovan)</div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(ChromeGalant)</div><div class='quotemain'>Someone try this and then let me know if it works..</div>

ur in iraq?</div>

Nope, he back.

oh ..what the piss

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(qnz)</div><div class='quotemain'>only the 1999 G's and older dont have the chip</div>
not true my00 gtz has no chip in the key

I know I am bringing this topic back from back in the day, but I want to see someone do this. I had the idea just want to see it brought to life. I don't have the extra resources to do this, but if someone does this would be great for the others to persue this mod.

Someone try this and if it works let us know. :D

<span style="color:#FF0000">This is the actual pic of the eclipse key. When I posted this the 4g Eclipse had just come out on the market.</span>

http://i14.ebayimg.com/01/i/08/7b/81/34_1.JPG

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Originally Posted by ChikagoGTZ

Looks cool, if it works I'm down. Here's the key to my Murano:
http://www.nissan.ca/en/vehicles/mur...lligentKey.jpg
It's a proximity key, I just touch the door handle and it unlocks and sets the seats and mirrors for me, and just turn the ignition knob and it starts...no "key" at all is needed! If you can get this in a Galant, I'll do your friggin' laundry!

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I have the same thing on my wife's Murano. I love that feature....leave the keys in my pocket, unlock/lock the doors, and start the car. GOTTA LOVE IT! I would love something like this for my G. Probably impossible but o well.

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Originally Posted by BlueStreak8g

I have the same thing on my wife's Murano. I love that feature....leave the keys in my pocket, unlock/lock the doors, and start the car. GOTTA LOVE IT! I would love something like this for my G. Probably impossible but o well.

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What year Murano's do yall have?? My cousin has a 05 and his doesn't have that one..... I rented a 06 and that didnt have it either

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Originally Posted by Da_silvagride

I know I am bringing this topic back from back in the day, but I want to see someone do this. I had the idea just want to see it brought to life. I don't have the extra resources to do this, but if someone does this would be great for the others to persue this mod.

Someone try this and if it works let us know. :D

<span style="color:#FF0000">This is the actual pic of the eclipse key. When I posted this the 4g Eclipse had just come out on the market.</span>

http://i14.ebayimg.com/01/i/08/7b/81/34_1.JPG

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thats what my key looks like. I like it alot better with it on the key.

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Originally Posted by pvu_rida

What year Murano's do yall have?? My cousin has a 05 and his doesn't have that one..... I rented a 06 and that didnt have it either

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We have an 06 SL AWD w/ every option but the DVD Entertainment. Now I gotta get one in there soon since my daughter is getting older.

Welcome to the new world Neo.

You could do a proximity key with any car if you really wanted too.

You would need to bypass the cars stock chip (like a remote start does) and you would need a RFID reader, and RFID tag.

You would have to put an RFID chip in the key (RFID tag), and then a corresponding RFID switch in the car connected to a push button start. The RFID switch would be wired in just like a kill switch. When the key was not in proximity, the starter switch would not work. If you just wanted the doors to unlock you could keep the stock key combo, but a push button is just so much cooler.

You could use relays to do anything once the key is in proximity. This includes remote starts, open the windows, unlock the car, lights on/off.

However if you went the push button route, any idiot would be able to hot wire your car, because you bypassed your stock key chip. They would just have to run a hot past the RFID switch to start her up.

They make N.O. and N.C. RFID switches already, I have held them in my hands at school.

Dont get tired do you.

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Originally Posted by Xrs2

You could do a proximity key with any car if you really wanted too.

You would need to bypass the cars stock chip (like a remote start does) and you would need a RFID reader, and RFID tag.

You would have to put an RFID chip in the key (RFID tag), and then a corresponding RFID switch in the car connected to a push button start. The RFID switch would be wired in just like a kill switch. When the key was not in proximity, the starter switch would not work. If you just wanted the doors to unlock you could keep the stock key combo, but a push button is just so much cooler.

You could use relays to do anything once the key is in proximity. This includes remote starts, open the windows, unlock the car, lights on/off.

However if you went the push button route, any idiot would be able to hot wire your car, because you bypassed your stock key chip. They would just have to run a hot past the RFID switch to start her up.

They make N.O. and N.C. RFID switches already, I have held them in my hands at school.

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hmmm, great post.

i've had remote start for the longest, but wouldn't mind having a proximity key.

can you post some info, if you have any, on how much this would cost. A tutorial would be nice. :)

I will ask my professor what the RFID's cost. I'm pretty sure that the IDs them self are very low cost, and that the Reader is the part that is more expensive.

Most of the RFID's come in the shape of a credit card (The RFID is only a small part of the card). But a lot of business' are using them to track merchandise, so they are getting smaller and cheaper. The major problem, is you would need some sort of an on-board controller to activate everything for you. The output on the RFIDs is digital (ie 0 is denied 1 is accepted and 3 is retry) so you would need a small IC somewhere to activate your relays.

I am going to try and figure this out, if it is less than 100 bucks I'll try it. I will try and do it this way. Keep stock ignition and secuirty key in place.

Put a kill switch inline to the ECU ignition signal that is only activated when the RFID is in proximity. I would like it to be passive RFID in the key (that means no battery) This limits range tho. So I may have to use an active (battery operated) RFID, but if the battery dies and I don't have a replacement I am fucked....hard.

I will get some prices and specs and will actually try to do it. If it works out I'll let you guys know how I did it. I pretty much want to be able to walk up to my car and have the car unlock when I get like 10 feet away. Or maybe even setup some switches so I can change the behavior of the RFID.

I'm guessing that there is like a 50% chance of this working out. it really depends on price of hardware, and if everything is available.

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Originally Posted by 6G72gearhead

Dont get tired do you.

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Whatcha mean?

i'll be waiting for updates..


might be a good idea to start a new thread for that project.

I started a new thread for my project.

https://www.thegalantcenter.org/index...showtopic=53107

PVU...it was offered on '05 Murano march build and later I believe. Its part of the convenience package with the SL. Nowadays you can get it on pretty much any vehicle (labelled as comfort access or something like that).

yea i kno

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Originally Posted by zippyflu

yea i kno

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huh??

The 07 Outlander XLS has the FAST key system that you talk about. It has a knob on the ignition, unlocks all doors.. works on the rear hatch as well as driver and passenger door... you have to be within 28 inches of it for it to work... Here's the breakdown.. Freehand Advanced Security Transmitter... It's pretty sweet... I wish I can have that on my G... It's pretty bulky though it's about 2'' x 1.5''

Jeff