Who here has swap in a 4G63T in there 7 G? Please only check in if you have done it, NO BENCH RACERS. I and almost done with a site of JUST 4G63T powered 7th G's...
I'm one I guess...... https://www.thegalantcenter.org/styl...lt/biggrin.gif
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Who here has swap in a 4G63T in there 7 G? Please only check in if you have done it, NO BENCH RACERS. I and almost done with a site of JUST 4G63T powered 7th G's...
I'm one I guess...... https://www.thegalantcenter.org/styl...lt/biggrin.gif
In the process
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what harness/ecu combo did you go with?
kick ass seth!!!
How much did you pay for the engine? 1g or 2g? Are you doing the tranny swap at the same time?
Def. keep us updated.
$1600 = JDM 6gvr4 4g63t with big 16g and 510cc yellow tops stock
5spd swap will be going down at the same time, the tranny is sitting in my garage as well :wink:
http://tgcia.galants.com/engine2.jpg
http://tgcia.galants.com/turbo.jpg
TD05H 16g + 7cm exhaust housing = Big 16g https://www.thegalantcenter.org/styl...ault/smile.gif
Seth...who is doing your wiring harness for you or what harness are you using? Congrats on the swap process though!
91 Harness with the gvr4 ECU. i know its not the easiest combo, but its the one I am going to do.
I know I will have problems with the wiring, but if I get stuck, Jesse said he will help me out.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Boosted 4G63T galant)</div><div class='quotemain'>Who here has swap in a 4G63T in there 7 G? Please only check in if you have done it, NO BENCH RACERS. I and almost done with a site of JUST 4G63T powered 7th G's...
I'm one I guess...... https://www.thegalantcenter.org/styl...lt/biggrin.gif</div>
a site of just 4g63T 7Gs? i dont think you'll even get over 10 members.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(sethmo)</div><div class='quotemain'>91 Harness with the gvr4 ECU. Â*i know its not the easiest combo, but its the one I am going to do.
I know I will have problems with the wiring, but if I get stuck, Jesse said he will help me out.</div>
Really? I wonder how hard it will be to wiring the instrument panel harness to work that ECU.
Im not sure, I think i may just buy a 91 ECU that I know that works just to be safe. I know Sabzi used a 1g ecu and 1g harness and he said it was not that hard, just time consuming
I think it would be easier to just use a 2g ECU and just hack your 4g64 SOHC harness. From what Rob said...just have to change a few wires to accomodate the coil pack and Cam angle sensor and knock sensor ect. I was thinking of using a 1g 4g63 harness and ecu since OB1 is a bit easier to tune with. My only obstacle is the wiring harness....and is pretty much the only thing holding back from my project.
Alright, i am switching plans. Galant harness and 2g ecu it is. I know craig runs this setup and after reading JiPs tutorial, it sounds rather painless. So now I am on the search for a good ECU, shouldnt be that hard...
Anyone want to buy some stock gvr4 parts?
That the way I run mine, But I am havign problem with my Tach right now..
:oops:
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(sethmo)</div><div class='quotemain'>Alright, i am switching plans. Â*Galant harness and 2g ecu it is. Â*I know craig runs this setup and after reading JiPs tutorial, it sounds rather painless. Â*So now I am on the search for a good ECU, shouldnt be that hard...
Anyone want to buy some stock gvr4 parts?</div>
haha, like what
just quick question guys, any 4g63t engine could do? or does it have to be specific eclipse/talon engine, and from what year to what year? my friend has an old engine sitting in his shop and i might do a swap.
here's the info that i got from him:
SPECIFICATIONS
»Engine Code: 4G63T
»Year:90-94-
»Valve train:TURBO CICLONE
»Transmission:AWD
»Displacement:
»Horsepower:210hp
»Torque:
»Compression:
Josh, your swap includes the ff:
»Motor
»ECU
»Turbo
»Distributor
»Complete Intake Manifold
»Alternator
»A/C Power Steering Pump
So will it do? thanks guys![/img]
AWD is a no-no unless you're going that route...
well, i could drop the awd transmission and just swap it with a m/t or stay with my auto.. i can definitely do that right? or that's because the layout on the trans of the engine is only for awd?
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Galant95)</div><div class='quotemain'>well, i could drop the awd transmission and just swap it with a m/t or stay with my auto.. i can definitely do that right? or that's because the layout on the trans of the engine is only for awd?</div>
yes you can use this motor with a m/t or stay auto
hey someone should sticky this post....im buyin a 7g as we speek from one of our brethren and he already has all the parts to do the swap including the ecu and motor (bottom end needs a rebuild tho :evil: )....so long storry short document yer progress guys...we gotta help each other out hahaha
hehe, i'll just sell the awd transmission and stay with my auto.. for now. but most definitely, we need to post some sort of "quick-guide" to engine swapping on this 7g forum!!! ... hey i know there's couple of you guys who already did this, help a brotha out https://www.thegalantcenter.org/styl...lt/biggrin.gif labor costs are very expensive :evil: :!:
yeah, i did a '90 ecu/wiring harness.. it was time consuming because i did not have a galant wiring diagram, now that that is available, it should be simple..
remember guys, if you get an engine from an AWD setup, and you are using a FWD transmission, do not forget that the flywheel must match the transmission! the AWD flywheel has a smaller diameter than the FWD flywheel!
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(sethmo)</div><div class='quotemain'>Alright, i am switching plans. Â*Galant harness and 2g ecu it is. Â*I know craig runs this setup and after reading JiPs tutorial, it sounds rather painless. Â*So now I am on the search for a good ECU, shouldnt be that hard...
Anyone want to buy some stock gvr4 parts?</div>
Where is the JiPs tutorial located at. I would like to use the tutorial as a guide to my setup for my 4g63t swap.
I think going with 1G ECU and harness will be most doable, and safer too :orangeyes: Thanks for the heads up Sabzi on the flywheel, so... which one would do the trick :?:
Hey Bro, Speaking from Experence. The 2G ECU (95) it the one to use. Use the Stock Galant Harness and run 9 wires. Your Done. You will have ALOT of work to use the 1 G ECU. I have a 95 2G ECU and a 1G Motor ( no crank walk :-) ). Thye 2G Motor will drop right in, but the 1 G you ahev to mod the Motor mounts, and Timing cover. I run a Galant Tranny ( From Level 10, stage 3 about $5800) Are you. If you get a VR4 JDM motor, do yourself a favor and get yourself a USDM 1 G intake. The Cyclone Intake Suck major ass. Any question drop me a line. My car runs great, 11 lbs all day ever day. It's not to fast off the line but VERY DEADLY on a ROLL ON. :shock:
Yah I have read a FAQ on how to get the Cyclone intake mani functioning w/o the JDM ECU and I am going to try to get it to work before I swap it out. The duel runnners give a little more low end torque if they are working properly https://www.thegalantcenter.org/styl...ault/laugh.gif
$5800 for a level10??? :shock: a fully built TRE or john shepherd racing trans would have been considerably cheaper, you may even have been able to go awd with the leftover money, ouch.
1g ecu wiring is not that much harder, i'm in louisiana without my car right now so i can't tell you how many wires it is, but it's not as hard as you seem to think.. that said, i think i may convert back to 7g wiring or 2g wiring but only because i am considering a '95 ecu and dsmlink
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(sabzi5858)</div><div class='quotemain'>$5800 for a level10??? :shock: Â*</div>
Yea I know! THat is with the billit Converter, and Shafts. I is hould up well under 11 psi so far. I am waiting till tommorw night to put on my Fuel pressure Regulator. Then HELLO 16-18psi!!!! :twisted:
to those that have used the 7g wiring harness: does the harness have provisions(connectors) for the power transistor, coilpack, cam angle sensor, and knock sensor? i am currently looking to go to a '95 ecu and ditch the '90 so i would like to know if i should get a 7g harness or just go for a 2g harness. thanks.
No, No, and No 8)
Stick with the 7g harness, add the wires needed. The plugs on the 7g harness plug directly into a 2g ecu. Just have to add the knock sensor wire, ect. Go read JiPs site:
http://www.wraithnet.net/jip/
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Doh, it is down as of right now...
that's right, my friend just told me that the 7g's harness fits right in with a 95 2g ECU and a little mod to add some wires for sensors, etc https://www.thegalantcenter.org/styl...lt/biggrin.gif
crap:evil: anyone knows of a good site of JDM engines selling 2g 4G63t, cuz my friend just sold his for $1200 (he needed the money) :wink: besides it was 90-94 and i don't want to waste anymore time and money modding the motor mounts.
Why would you want a 2g engine ::boggles my mind::
well seth, according to Boosted's "experience," the 2g engine will "drop" right in instead of a 1g motor, care to lighten me on this :?:
well, considering how old the engine will likely be, you will most probably want to do a timing belt change before installing the engine. while you are in there, you can just unbolt the motor mount, take it to a machine shop, and do the rest of the install. (read: magnusmotorsports.com look in the tech articles for 1g in a 2g) all the shop has to do is grind down the mount a bit, should cost no more than $15. i believe they only charged me around $5-$10 when i had it done. definitely worth it to not have crankwalk on your mind all the time.
yeah, seth just told me that, but that's the least of my worries tho, i don't have a shop to do my swap and don't know how much it will run me and how good if i take it to a shop :evil: Any guys there in NYC willing to help a fellow 7g rider out? :?:
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Galant95)</div><div class='quotemain'>yeah, seth just told me that, but that's the least of my worries tho, i don't have a shop to do my swap and don't know how much it will run me and how good if i take it to a shop Â*:evil: Â*Any guys there in NYC willing to help a fellow 7g rider out? Â* :?:</div>
Where in nyc do u live?
What are you people talkin about?? Engine mounts were never listed as a possible cause for crankwalk. Magnus as well as most people think the oil squirters are the culprit.
And for modding the mount...if you have an angle grinder you can do it yourself.
But its way to much of a hassle I think to get a 1g engine to work with a 2g ecu. You have 2 choices basically Magnus way of using a simulated crank signal wich leads to CEL every 5 minutes for random misfires or modifying the frontcase to accept a 2g style crank sensor, major work, if not done correctly, major problems.
See: http://www.roadraceengineering.com/2g6bolt...otorinstall.htm
BTW I posted my ecu section of my site up here for now:
http://jipownz.topcities.com/ecuswap.htm
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'>What are you people talkin about?? Engine mounts were never listed as a possible cause for crankwalk. Magnus as well as most people think the oil squirters are the culprit. </div>
!?!??! who said anything about engine mounts causing crank walk?? the discussion is whether modding the mount is worth it to put in a 1g engine and save the hassle of worrying about crank walk, instead of being able to just drop in the 2g engine, but then having to worry about crank walk.
as for the cam sensor differences, i have heard different cases having different results, some working, some not so well. sorry, i forgot about that because i was planning on dsmlink and not having to worry about it at all. but reading through the instructions on magnus' website, they mention this problem and also an apparent fix for it. also, according to magnus:
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'>Many people using the 1G CAS on a 2G head have been running into problems with misfire engine codes while at cruise. Many different things have been blamed for this and many different fixes have been attempted.</div>
suggesting that this problem only occurs with a 2g head and 1g engine.
hey JiP, but sabzi's right man! We were just talking about the advantage of a 2g engine that fit's perfectly on a 7g but known for crankwalk, and having a 1g engine that's better with some minor mod on the motor mounts. As for the Cam Angle Sensor, hopefully there would'nt be any misfire on mine when i go w/ my swapping https://www.thegalantcenter.org/styl...efault/sad.gif By the way, i'm in LI Hicksville JiP.
there isnt any real misfires, just the code that needs to be reset
I have a 95 2G ECu and a 91 JDM VR-4 motor. I have no problems with it. You are correct in that the Drivers side mount needs to be modded ( A angle grind with work), also the timing cover too. But as was stated before CHANGE the TIMING BELT AND WATER PUMP no matter what, before you put the motor in.
Galant95,
In my "experience" :wink: the 1G is worth the extra hassle.
1G+have larger intake runners, strong bottom end.
2G=CRANKWALK
THere reason the one G will not "Dropin" in the motormounts and timing cover.
The search button will help you out there to. https://www.thegalantcenter.org/styl...ault/smile.gif
I am going w/ a 1g JDM 4G63t motor & use a 2g ECU. Motor mount & timing cover modification will be easy, should cost me only $15 at most to grind and cut respectively. Changing the timing belt and water pump as well should be quick. It's only the labor of getting my motor out and putting the new one that worries me since i don't have a shop. But thanks for the help guys https://www.thegalantcenter.org/styl...ault/smile.gif