EMS for a turbo built 6g72

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10-19-2009, 05:30 PM
crzygtz

EMS for a turbo built 6g72

Hey guys, Im fairly new to the world of FI. I just purchased a turbo set up for my gtz with a t3/t4 hybrid turbo and also my motor is some what built with CP Forged 8:8:1 Pistons, Shot Peened Rods, Overbored .40, and Rpw valve springs. Now I have to figure out what EMS system to go with. My question is what systems are some of you FI guys using, pros/cons? and what would you suggest? Im currently looking at the emanage ultimate just because I can get it for about 500 new from a friend. let me know! any infor or insight would greatly be appreciated. Also im mainly going to be using this car for just weekend fun/driving and track it every once in awhile if that matters. Thanks!
10-19-2009, 05:52 PM
johnygezony

How about pics !!!!
10-19-2009, 05:59 PM
crzygtz

also im looking into running coil packs also because ive read the our distributers wont last long on a boosted set up. any insight on that would be great also. thanks!

johnygezony- ill try to get you some pics tonight or tomorrow.
10-19-2009, 07:25 PM
Galantfan88

Well my question to you is why are you running on stiffer springs on stock camshaft, and what turbo kit did you get....there are no turbo kits out for our cars but the ebay kits which are a majoy nono unless you dont care spending money on fixing the damages. Give us pix and more info about what you have and maybe we can help...
10-20-2009, 04:04 PM
crzygtz

... i dont even think there are ebay turbo kits for our cars or even the v6's. But the kit i purcahsed was a custom kit made by turbo concepts in michigan. its uses the turbo concepts wastegate, precision t3/t4 hybrid turbo, turboxs blow off valve type H.
10-20-2009, 04:20 PM
Galantfan88

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/JDMS-...item1c0b8e2869

Yes they do.lol but hey as far with EMS Im not sur ewhat people out there use for the v6 models. The ultimate E-mag sytem should do fine unless other people have other thoughts, but that might be your best bet. Im still on the question on asking you is why did you upgrade the valve springs with out running a more agressive cam?
10-20-2009, 04:43 PM
crzygtz

haha wtf i guess you can find / get anything on ebay. lol. as far as the valve springs go those were installed by the shop that built the motor for the previous owner. so its a good question. ill have to give him a call and ask
10-22-2009, 10:55 AM
SPD_FRK

How much power do you plan to make, how much pis of boost are you going to run? Any fuel upgrades (injectors, pump, Adjustable FPR?)

The E-manage Ultimate will do just fine for the boost build whether its the V6 or 4cyl engine. The benefit really for the Ultimate is that you can ditch the MAF sensor as well. The distributor should be good up to I think 300-350hp or more, but don't hold me to that exact number just yet as I will have to dig through some of the old information I have stuffed away at home.

If they put stronger springs in the motor on stock cams, it is possible they were building the motor for a mid-high end RPM power powerband so the valves will close quicker and helps to reduce valve float in those RPM ranges. You would likely not notice much of a gain from doing this on stock cams, but it is more common on aftermarket cams.

Also the T3/T4 Hybrid turbo choice is "ok" to start with, but I would guess you will quickly need to upgrade to something different unless you don't plan to run very much boost, or bigger HP numbers.
10-22-2009, 02:25 PM
johnygezony

where in michigan is turbo concepts ? I live in GR

oh and that so called "kit" is just a universal set up, there is no manifold
10-22-2009, 06:58 PM
crzygtz

Quote:

Originally Posted by SPD_FRK

How much power do you plan to make, how much pis of boost are you going to run? Any fuel upgrades (injectors, pump, Adjustable FPR?)

The E-manage Ultimate will do just fine for the boost build whether its the V6 or 4cyl engine. The benefit really for the Ultimate is that you can ditch the MAF sensor as well. The distributor should be good up to I think 300-350hp or more, but don't hold me to that exact number just yet as I will have to dig through some of the old information I have stuffed away at home.

If they put stronger springs in the motor on stock cams, it is possible they were building the motor for a mid-high end RPM power powerband so the valves will close quicker and helps to reduce valve float in those RPM ranges. You would likely not notice much of a gain from doing this on stock cams, but it is more common on aftermarket cams.

Also the T3/T4 Hybrid turbo choice is "ok" to start with, but I would guess you will quickly need to upgrade to something different unless you don't plan to run very much boost, or bigger HP numbers.

Hey thanks for the responce! I did pick up a fuellab fpr and I am also going to be getting a walbro fuel pump and injectors but im still doing some homework on what i should get. So if you have any insight that would be great! Sorry im a noob at this =). Im still trying to get as much info on what parts and things I should be getting. Rather ask questions and be safe rather then blowing my shit up haha. As far as hp goes Id like to break into the mid 300s and then as I learn more I would want to try and break 400. From what I was told I need to upgrade the distributer because thats what went bad on the motor. It was suggested I do coil packs. Thanks for the info!
10-22-2009, 06:59 PM
crzygtz

Quote:

Originally Posted by johnygezony

where in michigan is turbo concepts ? I live in GR

They are located in Brighton
10-22-2009, 07:00 PM
johnygezony

^ok so by ann arbor
10-22-2009, 07:24 PM
crzygtz

Heres a quick cell phone pic
http://i782.photobucket.com/albums/y...wMjAtMDA1M.jpg
10-22-2009, 08:18 PM
Ivory8g

What sized injectors bro?
10-22-2009, 11:55 PM
4g63lover

is the car blue?
10-23-2009, 11:56 AM
crzygtz

no my car is black with the custom faded clear coat look haha
10-24-2009, 06:03 PM
DryBear

I was running the older eManage Blue, so I am sure the eManage Ultimate should be fine. I didn't have any problems with the distributor, but I didn't push my car either, as I was still running a stock block with 7.5psi at the most.
10-25-2009, 06:33 PM
Stewi

OMG that oxygen sensor is REALLY close to the turbo, your gonna be buying o2 sensors every 5,000 miles.
10-25-2009, 10:01 PM
fatal1

generally for the v6 if you want a standalone, go with the haltech. as of this moment as far as im aware the ems is not compatable with our cars per say. you are able to go with a universal however that can get quite expensive. there is however last time i checked a member who is trying to create a setup for our cars.

of course a standalone is always better but the e-manage is also a good alternative. while you wont be able to achieve everything you would from a standalone it is the next closest thing
11-20-2009, 07:23 PM
PharmEcis

I sell a plug and play kit for an AEM EMS for the V6 5 spds. Yes I can build a harness for the auto's too, but the stock computer has to stay in the loop to drive the auto.
11-28-2009, 12:37 PM
crzygtz

Quote:

Originally Posted by PharmEcis

I sell a plug and play kit for an AEM EMS for the V6 5 spds. Yes I can build a harness for the auto's too, but the stock computer has to stay in the loop to drive the auto.

Awesome. what kind of pricing would i be looking at? and hows the AEM ems vs the greddy ultimate? i would need the harness for auto.
11-28-2009, 12:39 PM
crzygtz

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stewi

OMG that oxygen sensor is REALLY close to the turbo, your gonna be buying o2 sensors every 5,000 miles.

thats the same thing i was thinking and i had brought up with the guy i got the kit from but he was saying he didnt run into any problems with it. im prolly going to move it just to be on the safe side.
11-28-2009, 12:41 PM
crzygtz

Quote:

Originally Posted by DryBear

I was running the older eManage Blue, so I am sure the eManage Ultimate should be fine. I didn't have any problems with the distributor, but I didn't push my car either, as I was still running a stock block with 7.5psi at the most.

are you runing the Emanage blue on the v6 or i4? and how did you have it tuned?
11-28-2009, 12:44 PM
crzygtz

Quote:

Originally Posted by fatal1

generally for the v6 if you want a standalone, go with the haltech. as of this moment as far as im aware the ems is not compatable with our cars per say. you are able to go with a universal however that can get quite expensive. there is however last time i checked a member who is trying to create a setup for our cars.

of course a standalone is always better but the e-manage is also a good alternative. while you wont be able to achieve everything you would from a standalone it is the next closest thing

Ive heard of the Haltech units but i dont know much about them. whats the difference/advantage with what they offer compared to say a greddy ultimate?
11-28-2009, 12:45 PM
crzygtz

Thanks for all the insight guys I really appreciate the help!