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Want a new engine
i have a 95 galant es and i want to do a motor swap but i wanted to see if anyone had any advice on what would be the best engine to put in my car...im looking to change the transmission from an auto to a manual and put a turbo or supercharger on the new engine. i definately dont want another 4 cylinder though.. I dont know much about this stuff so any advice would be appreciated!! thanks :wink:
Heather
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no 4cyl? i beg to differ...
go find yourself a nice 90-94 eclipse/talon/laser with a 4g63t engine and 5spd tranny. craig has a 4g63t engine from a 91 talon tsi and he is running low 14s untuned and pretty much bone stock
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there is no direct engine that would fit the galant other than the 4g63t thats available in the US that is.....best bet would get 4g63t (eclipse GS-t engine) and modify that, 4 cylinder engine, i seen modded to about 600hp at most....have fun
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I betcha you could get the v6 8g engine into the 7g. Wont be a direct bolt in thing but what do you expect going from 4 to 6cyl.
But Id bet it fits in there nice.. our engine bay is really empty
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thanks guys..do you have any suggestions on were i should start to look for them at?
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Girly95Galant)</div><div class='quotemain'>thanks guys..do you have any suggestions on were i should start to look for them at?</div>
Just bring the car to me, and stuff the trunk with cash. It'll be plenty fast when I'm done with it https://www.thegalantcenter.org/styl...ault/laugh.gif
But, Just do a google search for "Japanese import engines" Find an importer that looks good and they can get you an Eclipse/Lancer engine. Price is gonna be about $3-4k depending on condition of the engine. Although, you could also go junkyard diving. There were approximately enough 4g63t's for every man, woman, and child in the U.S. to own three of them so it shouldn't be too tough to find one. Oh, and you're gonna have to get a FWD transmission unless you want to convert your car to AWD while you're at it. Those are a little more rare, but if you want a manual anyway, they can be gotten from a yard and rebuilt. A Galant 5 speed will work, but the Eclipse one is slightly more desirable. Or, you could just turbocharge the engine you have now. It'll get you around 300 hp on the stock internals, which is all you need for a street car anyway.
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Kain)</div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Girly95Galant)</div><div class='quotemain'>thanks guys..do you have any suggestions on were i should start to look for them at?</div>
Just bring the car to me, and stuff the trunk with cash. It'll be plenty fast when I'm done with it :lol:
But, Just do a google search for "Japanese import engines" Find an importer that looks good and they can get you an Eclipse/Lancer engine. Price is gonna be about $3-4k depending on condition of the engine. Although, you could also go junkyard diving. There were approximately enough 4g63t's for every man, woman, and child in the U.S. to own three of them so it shouldn't be too tough to find one. Oh, and you're gonna have to get a FWD transmission unless you want to convert your car to AWD while you're at it. Those are a little more rare, but if you want a manual anyway, they can be gotten from a yard and rebuilt. A Galant 5 speed will work, but the Eclipse one is slightly more desirable. Or, you could just turbocharge the engine you have now. It'll get you around 300 hp on the stock internals, which is all you need for a street car anyway.
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haha scott... you have NO idea.. how Close I am to offering a Similar Service.
when I get back To MA.. I'm applying for a mortgage.
if I can, I'm buying a house w/ a 2-car garage.. and I'm building turbo galants for fun.!!
of course... it's a big "maybe"
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how much are we looking at if we go to the junk yard and buy the engine, parts and other accesories including labor too??? with trann...close to 5k???
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(krazienluv10)</div><div class='quotemain'>how much are we looking at if we go to the junk yard and buy the engine, parts and other accesories including labor too??? Â* with trann...close to 5k???</div>
I've said it before, I'll say it again. Don't ever just "drop in" a junkyard motor. You're just asking for trouble. With a transmission, you can sometimes get away with a junkyard dog, but it's always best if you can hear the motor run/drive the car before your parts are pulled off of it. Actually, to do a full motor/transmission swap for parts + labor, you're looking at much closer to $8k done right. That's for a low milage engine, good transmission, all new clutch, PP, TOB, machine work, new fluids all around, labor, and incidentals. $5k would be more realistic if you were doing the labor yourself. But, than again it just depends on how you shop too. The motor I'm in the process of building now has a budget of $2,500 and I'm looking to clear that with a couple hundred to spare.
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so basically my engine is going to cost more than my car is worth? https://www.thegalantcenter.org/styl...efault/sad.gif do you think it would be a waste of time to fix up my engine with a 100k on it? and can i just change the transmission from a auto to a manual or do i have to change it all.
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You can change to manual from automatic with the same engine. Adding a turbo to your Galant is possible, but if you do not know much about them you are going to have to start doing a lot of research because you have to know what you are getting yourself into. NOS is another option that would be easier to install but it has its negative points too.
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i can turbo the 4g64 right... wouldnt that be cheaper??? well maybe i should save for a supercharger....
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(krazienluv10)</div><div class='quotemain'>i can turbo the 4g64 right... wouldnt that be cheaper??? well maybe i should save for a supercharger....</div>+
Search for info on turboing the '64. SC? I *think* RIPPS may be making one, but I'm not sure. If they do it will be somewhere around $3500.
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I have a silly question, as I often do, and its about the old 2.6 engine.
Is that engine a bored and stroked 2.4 or is it an all different block?
Do any2.0 or 2.4 heads fit on the 2.6?
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"You can change to manual from automatic with the same engine"
Wow Moosh, how much work would be? To me it sounds like an ungodly ammount.
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get a donor car for like $500 and do it urself, 5 speed swaps are fun
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NYC TRINI, I BET THEY'RE FUN!
But how difficult is it? And why do you need a donor car, can't you just get a trany?
And even though I am getting sucked into this hobby deeper every day I don't think I'm gona go that far, but I'm just curious...do you know of a web site that shows how some of this is done ?
Thanks
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http://www.ecanfix.com/~mdhamilton/autotomanual.html
this is for a 1g DSM but its basically the same....u dont really need a donor car but with all the parts u would want, i;ll get a donor car with a 5 speed DOHC and a turbo so i can do all my swaps in one
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Oh man I went to that site, and the swap looks just easy enough to try and just hard enought to get in trouble, (I'm good at that).
NYC Triny you are dangerous
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for new engines and trannys check these sites out....
www.flashoptions.com
www.raceup.com
this is where i'm getting my new swap from, their prices are pretty damn cheap and are covered by a warranty. so far 3 of my friends have gottent their swaps from there and no problems what so ever.
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They've got some 4g63ts. It just doesn't give the prices on them
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I didn't see any trannies though
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email them for the tranny prices. you can get them really cheap. like around 3 or 400. my friends bought the package e&t for like 1500 shipped.
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Damn thats really good. How was the condition of the tranny and engine? Were they in godd shape? I assume that it is JUST the tranny and none of the linkage or any of that stuff needed for an auto to manual swap.
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you can get what ever you need, my boys came in about perfect condition, it was clean as hell and looked like it was brand new. email them with whatever it is you need, 95% of the time they'll have what you need.
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just so you have this info, if you are interested in swapping a motor, is that just for performance reasons. I know so many people steer away from using the stock 4G64 sohc block, but it has a ton of potential. Bore over to 2.5L, enlarged valve, cam, port and polish the intake and head, even a knife-edged crank. slightly raise the compression and full intake and exhaust, computer chip, injectors, throttlebody. Now if that isn't performance I don't know what is? Naturally aspirated for me https://www.thegalantcenter.org/styl...ault/smile.gif That is just my opinion so I don't need all the negative feedback. I am just saying that don't be afraid to use this motor, it is very strong and for a price it will do whatever you want it to. There is a 2.2L chrysler motor some punk kid drives in my town, but I have to give him props... he dynoed 325 horsepower with no nos, no turbo, no supercharger.
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"There is a 2.2L chrysler motor some punk kid drives in my town, but I have to give him props... he dynoed 325 horsepower with no nos, no turbo, no supercharger."
That's impressive, he's not running 9.5 :1 that's for sure, I wonder what c/r he's runing. Also what gas?
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he runs on pump gas but i think he adds that octane boost stuff. he has all these bottles in his trunk. I know the motor cost him a fortune but it is damn fast. Punkass https://www.thegalantcenter.org/styl...ault/laugh.gif
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I got my engine for 900 bucks! It had 65k milkes on it real clean! It runs great now move like it used to. I am trying to keep the mileage down so I can get that damn supercharger! Anyway I got from MS recycling. Look em up on line
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I think that the main people look more into the swap instead of the building process is because it is like a one time deal. You just take it in and swap them out then you get your car back. With the whole building process you gotta rip out you motor for how ever long it takes which could be quite a while and then be out of a car. Unless you buy another engine. But then you will be spending a lot more money than if you just did the swap initially. But I agree with Illest, if you can build up the 4g64 I would say go for it. He is absolutly right about the great potential.
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Raceup has:
1990-1993 MITSUBISHI ECLIPSE 2.0L DOHC,4G63T,CYCLONE, COMPLETE ENGINE WITH TURBO,ALTERNATOR,A/C COMPRESSOR,PWR STEERING PUMP, ECU, WIRE HARNESS AND AWD AUTO TRANSMISSION , THIS ENGINE WILL ALSO WORK IN THE 1994 AND UP WITH CUSTOM MOUNTS.
For $1600
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Sound good except for the awd tranny part
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yeah get that, and swap it out for a FWD tranny, however u'll need a 2g tranny to drop in no proble, i think the 1g tranny has to be a little modded via the mounts to fit
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generally what would be faster, a turbo 64 or a 63 turbo???
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both have great potential, but u can easily get to 600hp with a 63t, but i'll have to work harder to get there with a 64T, IMO I prefer the 64T because its a better block, just lower ur compression and u'll be up in the 300's easily
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well, since displacement = power. . . the '64 could make more power. Theoretically anyway. The oversquare of the motor places additional stress on the motor though, possibly limiting power when reaching for the extremes. Difficult to say, since I don't know of anyone who's gone much past about 300 hp on the '64.
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I think this thread is kinda funny...
You guys ALWAYS jump at a newbie's throat when they ask a question that's been discussed before, but when it's a girl you're all friendly and shit.
Amazing...
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(brandon)</div><div class='quotemain'>I think this thread is kinda funny...
You guys ALWAYS jump at a newbie's throat when they ask a question that's been discussed before, but when it's a girl you're all friendly and shit.
Amazing...</div>
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