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ok so this is my next little project and i just wanted to make sure i had everything straight.. i need a 95-97 eclipse gsx/tsi as my parts car.. tranfer parts over such as the fuel tank and obviously all other awd necesseties. all i need that i cannot use off of the gsx is a cuztom driveshaft as our whellbase is different? i would like to know if im on the right track or not as i am going to make this happen this summer
thanks
Well since no one here has actually finished the swap you are pretty much on your own for doing it...Quote:
Originally Posted by Galanttuner10
the swap is almost the same as doing it to a FWD eclipse. another issue is where you are going to run the exhaust. our tunnel can only hold one or the other not both.
http://www.automotivearticles.com/AWD_Conversion.shtml
Swap the floor pans over ?
that would give you more room yes ?
yea i was looking at that and ill look at the gsx im gonna use as a parts car when i get it and c wut i can get for an ideaQuote:
Originally Posted by kolio
Won't Cali's AWD swap that he has for sale cover what you need for the swap?
https://www.thegalantcenter.org/showthread.php?t=34279
yea but when u have a gsx already as a parts car but its at ur other house in tennessee its kind of rough.. i have it just debating and im in CT shipping would be crazy.. dont know what that has to do with my question though.. i only want to know of possible issues i may have overlookedQuote:
Originally Posted by tamim13
I apologize, I thought you might have missed that post.
Shipping a caddy from MD to LA only costs me $750 so I doubt it would be that much to CT.
Just try lookking around in your area for rolling 95-99 GSX shell /no engine or seized engine/. Try dsmtrader, craigslist, junkyards....... Also, i think it matters, but im not sure, the donor car needs to be 5 spd. I know manual and auto transfer cases are different, but Im no sure about rear differential.
i dont think the rear diff would change. It wouldnt depend on having a manual or auto cuase all the rear diff is, is for power transfer to the wheels. The trans shouldn't make difference for the rear diff. but i could be wrong.Quote:
Originally Posted by mko
The only real problem you might run into is getting the custom drive shaft.
your going to need one that is about 6"s longer, When you get the gsx take the shaft out measure the dia of the shaft and measure the length from end to end on the yokes. Cut the yokes off and clean up the welds on them, find a machine shop in your area, they don't have to deal with cars really just someone that deals with steal, have them cut you a piece of tubing for the shaft in the length you need and have the yokes welded back on somewhere. the shaft really shouldn't coast you that much if you can go that rout.
You are also going to have to make the tunnel larger for where the transfer case sits. I suggest that you make some kind of jig to bolt across your car if you are going to be cutting into the center of the car, because of the fact we have a unibody car they could cave in if you cut the center out or you could end up twisting the frame.( my friend was putting a 350 in a civic told him not to cut for the tunnel cause the car will twist and fold in the center, if you dont support it. the car is in junk yard cause it collapsed on itself when he went to cut for the tunnel.)
You need a gsx ecu and exhaust. Also a 5 lug conversion in the front so you can have matching wheels all around.
I dont think you have cut tunnel in the firewall. I mean, all 7g body frames should be the same - vr4 or not. Same thing with the eclipses - they gor from fwd to awd w/o cuttin in the firewall, cuz they were made to accomodate fwd or awd in the same body. I saw some guy in club3g cutting a tunnel, but 3g never came AWD. In the worst case, you may need front sub-frame out of AWD
yea but our firewall is differant from the vr4s. unless they just rotate them 180 for the left hand drive which may as well have been possible.Quote:
Originally Posted by mko
actually the regular 7G and the vr-4 have diffrent tunnels. the vr-4 is wider. there is a international member here who swapped the tunnel because the stock was too small.Quote:
Originally Posted by mko
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Originally Posted by Galant306m
it dont matter if its left or right handed /its just different power steering rack/, the 7g engine on vr4 and US, EU models is always on the right side when you look from the front of the car
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Originally Posted by kolio
it is very posible! i was making analogy with 2g GST and GSX.
btw whos the guy?
i was saying that the Vr4 firewalls might be different then ours because they are right hand drive, and awd. there has to be a place for the transfer case to sit, and it comes right off the tranny under the firewall in the middle of the tunnel. If its not a big enough space you cant get it in. someone needs to crawl under their car and see how big it is lol its to cold here other wise i would lol i dont think a transfer case will fit in that little spot.Quote:
Originally Posted by mko
Edit: https://www.thegalantcenter.org/showthread.php?t=33260 < that guy.
If theres not enough room(and nobody has really verified it), might get by with running stock exhaust and just run an o2 or wastegate dump :)
If you look at the thread where the 7g member from Sweden or Norway or somethewhere over in Euripe, took a FWD 7g and did the AWD swap. He cut the tunnel right down the middle, moved both sides over a few inches, and welded a sheet of metal down the middle. Not hard to do if you have some fab experience.
Also, I dont think the 2g AWD gas tank will bolt up. You will probably have to run a fuel cell.
Thread:
https://www.thegalantcenter.org/show...ghlight=tunnel
if you go ahead and read it youll see that he want to fit the driveshaft and the exhaust side by side, so if its to be guessed, the transfer case will work with US tunnel, and just come up with some cutom exhaust piping
Yes, and he didnt cut into the firewall, just the firewall back. If you didnt want to custom fab it, just cut the tunnel out of a 2g and mod it slightly. 2g AWD exhaust and 2g FWD exhaust is completely different.
mko im getting one but im getting one from down south by my other house less rust and such and cheaperQuote:
Originally Posted by mko
he was just tryin to help.. dont b all on ur ragsQuote:
Originally Posted by Galanttuner10
lol im not.. i have a gsx as a parts car down in tennessee thats why i was bringing it up.. it is a 2ga hence the 95-97 addressed initially and he brought up a for sale thread i dont need to buy nething.. now drop it and let it beQuote:
Originally Posted by ZigenScarface
wats wrong with the gsx? if its not that bad the you should just fix it up and drive that. but if its all smashed up then do the swap!
the gsx has a bad motor like really bad lol and i would rather have my g awd then a gsx cuz if insurance as well.. between the 2 houses there are 9 cars and 5 drivers.. i have enough other cars to pick from hahaQuote:
Originally Posted by Galant306m
rent a car trailer for $60 and a UHAUL truck and tow it to CT.
i would do that but the plan is to do it this summer while im in tennessee as down there my fam has a race shop and i can have it done in like a week and our family friend has a dyno and i wanna run it at the track while im down thereQuote:
Originally Posted by kolio
hook a brother up with some free work on the galant then.Quote:
Originally Posted by Galanttuner10
maybe over the summer if i get to know you.. im going down from around the 4th of july until like the 15th or so who knows whats is gonna happen by thenQuote:
Originally Posted by kolio
meh i would just fix the gsx and have a turbo'd 7g lol. just me.
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Originally Posted by Galant306m
the rear diffs are different. manual and auto have different ratios; make sure you match everything up right.
i stand corrected. i didnt think about the ratios, but now that you mention it, they would have to be different. thanks Cali.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cali
ok i gsx has a working 5 spd tranny and im swappping out the tranny, axles, the rear end everything so i shouldnt have a problem just a different driveshaft i believeQuote:
Originally Posted by Cali
yea the drive shaft isnt that big problem! you should rebuild the motor and put it in the g
haha i get it but im going the 64 block with the 63 head and building that.. i dont want to rebuild a 7 bolt 63 that has shown evidence of crankwalk