After reading on headers for a 4 cyl. 8G, I'm still debating on which one is better. So, based on personal experience, what would ya'll recommend? Kamikaze, RPW, DC, etc ? Thanks.
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After reading on headers for a 4 cyl. 8G, I'm still debating on which one is better. So, based on personal experience, what would ya'll recommend? Kamikaze, RPW, DC, etc ? Thanks.
The DC has good reviews with some of our members, RPW will be hard to get, and barely anyone has Kamikaze
Obx header from ebay. cheap an easy ($170). headers dont add much power at all so why pay a bazillion dollars for a DC Sports ($350-400), RPW ($600-700), or Kamizake ($300-400) header for what a whopping 5 hp tops?
RPW and then DC
i got dc headers for about 200 shipped. when they got here the UPS guy put them on while i waited
Thunder Stealer!!!!!
I guess let me rephrase a little. Which header will be full length (replacing a cat back) yet has all the necessary O2 sensors? DC ?
If not ebay, how about a link? :)Quote:
Originally Posted by krispy03
sarcasm > you
nobody makes a header that replaces the cat back. headers go in front of the cat, not in back of it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Alexey
[QUOTE=Alexey;375834]I guess let me rephrase a little. Which header will be full length (replacing a cat back) yet has all the necessary O2 sensors? DC ?
Obx headers are full length and have both O2 sensors in the stock locations the actual header an midpipe. then u have to find a cat back, which also can be found dirt cheap on ebay.. just go on an type in "galant exhaust" and youll find a cat back. u can get a megan catback for like 350 or a simple ebay catback for about 200 complete shipped an all. an exhaust isnt 1 solid piece.
wrong. Most CHEAP headers don't add power. Although, some known brands i.e. DC and RPW are DYNO proven to add power.Quote:
Originally Posted by Trevs56
Anything that can let the car breathe a little easier will add power. Just depends on how good the part is developed and made.
o so unless ur buy DC or RPW, guaranteed power ay? obx has nothing .. because there cheap.. ok then. thats why off the dyno on a run i added 5 whp and then when i did a custom cat back, i got another 6 hp... ok i guess i was wrong because i didnt spend 500 bucks on a piece of steel with the exact same bends, same TIG welds and the exact same finish but not the "big name brand"Quote:
Originally Posted by 4g63lover
Wow GTFO ... 5 horsepower ... my car gains that much after my morning dump. What people are trying to tell your dumb ass is that OBX and other cheap as shit brands do not properly engineer their HEADER for correct exhaust gas scavenging or anything else. ... Seriously, that almost 5 horsepower was probably gained from the fact that an aftermarket header is lighter than the stock one.
I just bought OBX headers and im satisfied, and so is my wallet.
i bet your throwing codes...Quote:
Originally Posted by jonk8123
nice that u take a dump in your car in the morning. thanks for sharing.Quote:
Originally Posted by laxinwarrior
I have a dc sports header with a mid pipe, uninstalled. Will it not delete the cat? I thought they did... I have used dc for years. Good stuff, great results.
lol In the post above^^^^ I was actually referring to replacing a catalytic converter. That would eliminate most of the erroneous posts after mine :)
Quote:
Originally Posted by Trevs56
wow. the intelligence of the noobs these days are fucking great.
The OBX header you got might add 5 to the wheel but the DC or RPW will add atleast 10. and no they are not of the same design because I guarantee you the OBX 1-2 years down the road will crack as the DC or RPW will hold its own even 5 years down the road.
and DC headers are ceramic, not sure about the RPW's though
no 12-10 second car ever made it there by cutting costs and corners. If you're hungry for power spend the money on the right part.
yeah DC and RPW are expensive but it took them months to develop and make a working product that will guarantee a power increase to OBX's hour and a half of making and building their product that adds 5whp even if that. ask N30Acid about his RPW header and ask him if he'll ever go with any other header for the Galant. I bet you he'll say no.
you sound so fucking stupid trying to prove a CHEAP product is better than a product thats been in the import scene and racing scene a long time.
Why do you think most All-motor high compression Hondas run a DC header?
Because DC (which is an AEM product) has proven their stuff over and over again. I have yet to see an all-motor car with an OBX header gain as much power as DC headers do.
i not one time said or tried to say a cheaper product was better. read between the lines u fucking jackass. i was saying that cheap products in the least DO add power. u guys all make it sound like unless u pay top dollar for every single piece on an engine that u will not see a drop of power added. bottom line is even the cheapest of products do add power an if all your gonna do is a simple bolt on exhaust why go nuts paying hundred upon hundreds of dollars when u can go milder grade on something an focus money on other areas.Quote:
Originally Posted by 4g63lover
i agree, the obx are alot better then stock and i didnt have to pay double to get top of the line, im planning on going turbo in the future anyways so i wont need them. but i also agree that rpw and dc are better, but for the price of obx its a pretty good deal
glad to hear some positive stuff about OBX cuz I have some on the way! :o
You know Ive been thinking. When I do upgrade to an aftermarket header, it would make sense if a CEL light or something would come on, correct. Because you are eliminating the pre-cat. Considering the order of O2 sensor right at the start, than the pre-cat in the header, than another O2 sensor, than the full cat. So wouldent that second sensor set off a code or something because it is reading that more of that crap is getting through. What would be the right way to get around this. Just weld a new bung hole thing (I forget what its called) behind the main Cat or what because I have to go in for emissions testing in september and they wont test is a light is on. I know you can just remove the bulb or whatever but I would rather it be done right. Know what I mean.
here you go whitegalant
http://forums.evolutionm.net/showthread.php?t=114931
or you could put the second o2 sensor behind the main cat but its not necessary
oh and they are just called o2 bungs you dont have to say the hole part but it made me laugh lol
Might also want to remember that Fed Spec Galants like mine have only one O2 sensor on the main Cat.
Very good tutorial by the wayQuote:
Originally Posted by underated
I got a cali spec galant and i got obx headers (the two piece one, it deleted my reg and pre cat) and now a magnaflow hi-flow cat and stock resonator and i dont have a CEL on.
http://www.cmfabrications.com/main.sc
i had this header on my G love it, kinda pricey but worth it.
i have the RPW headers..... no complaints here... :)
Whats the point in getting headers? Youre not gonna gain anything especially with the auto tranny sucking up that extra hp. Well still get spanked off the dig. running 17's is no where close to being decent in this day n age. If you want to get the most out of your headers, youre gonna need to do some head work and run a more aggressive cam. spending 200-500 bucks on headers is pointless unless you plan on opening your block to do some internal work. In regards to getting cheaper headers, they will eventually crack....the welds on them arent good quality. Id give it a year to 2 years tops before you get a leak due to bad welds. Spend the extra cash and never worry about your shiet braking. OBX i feel isnt quality goods... I doubt you would buy an OBX suspension for the G if they ever planned on making it.
sorry for reviving a dead thread but i didn't want to make a new one.....do i have to buy a full catback in order to have a relatively free-flowing midpipe? because i already have a muffler, and i'm (hopefully) getting a DC sports header....