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I know this topic has MOST likely been ripped to shreds but i always get frustrated using the search because it doesnt really filter all that well...lol
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1999-2000-2...1QQcmdZViewItem
If i were to buy that, i'd need a new tranny and what else? i really love my galant but would like some more power out of it and i cant stand the 4 cylinder...Thanks for those who dont flame lol
you know it would be cheaper and easier to trade your i4 in for a v6. or even better, turbo the car
you think it would be easier to just trade it in? i dont wanna turbo because it has a lot of miles (85k) i dont need a blown motor a year down the road...i live in new hampshire so there arent THAT many G's floatin around lolQuote:
Originally Posted by pinoyesv6
you dont have to worrie about blowing your engine from turbo,, as long as its installed right and you keep up with maitence, it wont just shut down on you like thatQuote:
Originally Posted by galant_got_speed
unless you are getting parts for free, or even better, labor for free then its gonna be cheaper to trade the car in. parts can be expensive and even if you get thtat for free, labor costs even more than parts. then factor in all the down time you'll have and the head scratching you'd have to do.Quote:
Originally Posted by galant_got_speed
in order to swap from 4 cyl to V6 you would need the entire front cross member assembly, control arms, knuckles, possibly struts, axles, engine, transmission, wiring harness and ECU. Those parts from a junkyard would probably cost you about $2500 or so. Believe it or not, if you were able to get the whole assembly, all as 1 piece, you could drop out yours and just bolt that one into place, that would make the labor much cheaper, maybe about $1500 for the install with changing the wiring and shit, so thats $4,000 total, you can buy a used 8g V6, the entire car for about $6500. It is possible, but more cost and time effective to trade or just flat out buy another one.Quote:
Originally Posted by galant_got_speed
https://www.thegalantcenter.org/styl...ault/laugh.gif that's awesomeQuote:
I live life a 1/4 Mile at a time...for those 17 seconds im free....
But yeah, even at 85k, I'd rather consider boosting the G, you just have to do it right.
where in NH? I'm in Maine; Orono.Quote:
Originally Posted by galant_got_speed
You don't want a V6. They are BARELY faster than the I4, and still too slow to even considering swaping in for performance upgrade.
Its cheaper, easier, and much more beneficial to simply go turbo with the I4 (god only knows I wouldn't mind trading you my V6).
BARELY faster? the V6 runs what? low to mid 16 quarter miles? the I4 runs friggen 17+ prob in the high to low 18's, completely ridiculous how slow it is.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jet Black
Dont get me started on the high end power, completely non existent, i can hang with ppl until 100 where i hit some huge magical wall and it takes me FOREVER to hit 120...im strongly considering turbo...just i dont no where to go in my part of the country for installation...
Nashua, NH...never heard of Orono before..i have family that lives way up in Bangor/Southwest Harbor, i go there every labor day weekend. Do you know of any places in our general area that are known for turbo installs? i cant seem to find any place around here...Quote:
Originally Posted by Serstylz2
Orono is 5 mins North of Bangor.. I was jus in Bangor... as far as turbo installs theres a place in Portland F1 Motorsports I think its called... I'll have to get back to you on that... nice place, have a sweet dyno there.. cool owner..
actually its called F1 Dyno i think
Portland is relatively close to me, id like to get turbo done...i dont have the cash in hand tho...id have to borrow to do something like that...prob be well worth it tho...what kind of times have people been seen running with turbo'ed I4's?? im guessing they get about 180whp?? or am i shooting too high? lolQuote:
Originally Posted by Serstylz2
check out rippmods supercharger if you want some hp.
Yah supercharging is fine and dandy...but id rather have more top end power...from my knowledge turbos r much better top end than superchargers, besides im pretty sure turboing is a bit cheaper than supercharging..at least for our cars neway, thanks for the suggestion tho!Quote:
Originally Posted by bebopin64
Differance between 17 and 16.5 is tiny. The differance between 10 and 10.5 is large.Quote:
Originally Posted by galant_got_speed
The power differance between the V6 and the I4 is all of about 50 whp.
NOT a large differance. Barely faster. Black Pearl (Dustin) and I lined up a while back. I couldn't pass him till I hit 3rd gear. Of course the fact that he has quite a few NA bolts surely helped. But none the less, the V6 and I4 are excruciatingly slow. In the end its a terrible idea to want to swap in a V6. If you want to swap in any engine, go the route that Stewi has gone and throw in a Evo motor. It weights less, has a bigger aftermarket, and comes out of the box strong as shit.
Its basicly better in every way imaginable than the anemic V6.
Top end power is a function of many things. Not simply turbos vs superchargers. But thats another discussion.Quote:
Originally Posted by galant_got_speed
Either way, turbo is much simpler (atleast for the I4), and probably a whole lot cheaper + reliable.
BTW About the search, make sure you check "Search for all terms", or else it will search each and every word separately (I believe adding a plus does the same thing as well ~ not sure).
The rippmods stage 2 supercharger is about as good as it gets for any rpm range. Anyway, low end power is what todays engines lack.Quote:
Originally Posted by galant_got_speed
Try a 13G for low end power. https://www.thegalantcenter.org/styl...fault/wink.gifQuote:
Originally Posted by bebopin64
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(bebopin64)</div><div class='quotemain'>check out rippmods supercharger if you want some hp.</div>
Listen to me (or to the others here, or read a little bit more on this)
Want more power? Turbo is your answer on the I4.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(gtx)</div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(bebopin64)</div><div class='quotemain'>check out rippmods supercharger if you want some hp.</div>
Listen to me (or to the others here, or read a little bit more on this)
Want more power? Turbo is your answer on the I4.</div>
So how much has it costed the people who have turbo'ed for EVERYTHING? a complete kit and installation? although i know a lot of you have done the work yourself...my expertise are WELL below the requirements to take on such a big task...am i facing 3k? 4k?...gulp....5k?
You really have to do a search on this there's plenty of information here and on the 3G sites. (I don't even have an I4 to start with).
You might want to check http://www.tearstone.com to get an idea just for a complete kit.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(gtx)</div><div class='quotemain'>You really have to do a search on this there's plenty of information here and on the 3G sites. (I don't even have an I4 to start with). Â*
You might want to check http://www.tearstone.com to get an idea just for a complete kit.</div>
Yah i saw the Basic complete kit...but i have a 2000 and would need the different midpipe right? for the extra 200 they charge..brings me to about 2500 for the kit...im not even sure what places charge for installation on these things, im prob looking at ABOUT 3k..i want to make CLOSE to 200WHP..im not even out to race..i just want the power to put those assholes who try and taunt you in their place ya no? lol https://www.thegalantcenter.org/styl...lt/biggrin.gif
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(galant_got_speed)</div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(gtx)</div><div class='quotemain'>You really have to do a search on this there's plenty of information here and on the 3G sites. (I don't even have an I4 to start with). Â*
You might want to check http://www.tearstone.com to get an idea just for a complete kit.</div>
Yah i saw the Basic complete kit...but i have a 2000 and would need the different midpipe right? for the extra 200 they charge..brings me to about 2500 for the kit...im not even sure what places charge for installation on these things, im prob looking at ABOUT 3k..i want to make CLOSE to 200WHP..im not even out to race..i just want the power to put those assholes who try and taunt you in their place ya no? lol https://www.thegalantcenter.org/styl...lt/biggrin.gif</div>
I'll tell you what, I know for a fact, turboing your I4 with installation will be cheaper then swapping out for a V6.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Stewi)</div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(galant_got_speed)</div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(gtx)</div><div class='quotemain'>You really have to do a search on this there's plenty of information here and on the 3G sites. (I don't even have an I4 to start with). Â*
You might want to check http://www.tearstone.com to get an idea just for a complete kit.</div>
Yah i saw the Basic complete kit...but i have a 2000 and would need the different midpipe right? for the extra 200 they charge..brings me to about 2500 for the kit...im not even sure what places charge for installation on these things, im prob looking at ABOUT 3k..i want to make CLOSE to 200WHP..im not even out to race..i just want the power to put those assholes who try and taunt you in their place ya no? lol https://www.thegalantcenter.org/styl...lt/biggrin.gif</div>
I'll tell you what, I know for a fact, turboing your I4 with installation will be cheaper then swapping out for a V6.</div>
Is it really THAT expensive to do the Engine Swap? hell ill just turbo then...now i get to have fun finding a place that wont force me to take out 6 loans, mortgage my parents house and whatnot to get it installed...lol
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(galant_got_speed)</div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Stewi)</div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(galant_got_speed)</div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(gtx)</div><div class='quotemain'>You really have to do a search on this there's plenty of information here and on the 3G sites. (I don't even have an I4 to start with). Â*
You might want to check http://www.tearstone.com to get an idea just for a complete kit.</div>
Yah i saw the Basic complete kit...but i have a 2000 and would need the different midpipe right? for the extra 200 they charge..brings me to about 2500 for the kit...im not even sure what places charge for installation on these things, im prob looking at ABOUT 3k..i want to make CLOSE to 200WHP..im not even out to race..i just want the power to put those assholes who try and taunt you in their place ya no? lol https://www.thegalantcenter.org/styl...lt/biggrin.gif</div>
I'll tell you what, I know for a fact, turboing your I4 with installation will be cheaper then swapping out for a V6.</div>
Is it really THAT expensive to do the Engine Swap? hell ill just turbo then...now i get to have fun finding a place that wont force me to take out 6 loans, mortgage my parents house and whatnot to get it installed...lol</div>
Why don't you go find out yourself. Ask a few Mitsu mechs in your area about the swap. After they finish laughing their asses off, they will most likely mirror Stewi's responce.
BTW Stewi's advice carries a good bit of weight (resume: a few motor swaps).
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Jet Black)</div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(galant_got_speed)</div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Stewi)</div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(galant_got_speed)</div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(gtx)</div><div class='quotemain'>You really have to do a search on this there's plenty of information here and on the 3G sites. (I don't even have an I4 to start with). Â*
You might want to check http://www.tearstone.com to get an idea just for a complete kit.</div>
Yah i saw the Basic complete kit...but i have a 2000 and would need the different midpipe right? for the extra 200 they charge..brings me to about 2500 for the kit...im not even sure what places charge for installation on these things, im prob looking at ABOUT 3k..i want to make CLOSE to 200WHP..im not even out to race..i just want the power to put those assholes who try and taunt you in their place ya no? lol https://www.thegalantcenter.org/styl...lt/biggrin.gif</div>
I'll tell you what, I know for a fact, turboing your I4 with installation will be cheaper then swapping out for a V6.</div>
Is it really THAT expensive to do the Engine Swap? hell ill just turbo then...now i get to have fun finding a place that wont force me to take out 6 loans, mortgage my parents house and whatnot to get it installed...lol</div>
Why don't you go find out yourself. Ask a few Mitsu mechs in your area about the swap. After they finish laughing their asses off, they will most likely mirror Stewi's responce.
BTW Stewi's advice carries a good bit of weight (resume: a few motor swaps).</div>
Yah i know who Stewi is..ive been reading these forums for a while now just never really post....but yah the mitsu dealer around here is a freakin joke...they tried making me pay 15 bucks for my radio code and i bitched until i walked out with it for free...i tried talking to one of the mechanics about the Evo and he said his wife owned an automatic Evo...i just walked out after that. :shock:
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(galant_got_speed)</div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Jet Black)</div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(galant_got_speed)</div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Stewi)</div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(galant_got_speed)</div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(gtx)</div><div class='quotemain'>You really have to do a search on this there's plenty of information here and on the 3G sites. (I don't even have an I4 to start with). Â*
You might want to check http://www.tearstone.com to get an idea just for a complete kit.</div>
Yah i saw the Basic complete kit...but i have a 2000 and would need the different midpipe right? for the extra 200 they charge..brings me to about 2500 for the kit...im not even sure what places charge for installation on these things, im prob looking at ABOUT 3k..i want to make CLOSE to 200WHP..im not even out to race..i just want the power to put those assholes who try and taunt you in their place ya no? lol https://www.thegalantcenter.org/styl...lt/biggrin.gif</div>
I'll tell you what, I know for a fact, turboing your I4 with installation will be cheaper then swapping out for a V6.</div>
Is it really THAT expensive to do the Engine Swap? hell ill just turbo then...now i get to have fun finding a place that wont force me to take out 6 loans, mortgage my parents house and whatnot to get it installed...lol</div>
Why don't you go find out yourself. Ask a few Mitsu mechs in your area about the swap. After they finish laughing their asses off, they will most likely mirror Stewi's responce.
BTW Stewi's advice carries a good bit of weight (resume: a few motor swaps).</div>
Yah i know who Stewi is..ive been reading these forums for a while now just never really post....but yah the mitsu dealer around here is a freakin joke...they tried making me pay 15 bucks for my radio code and i bitched until i walked out with it for free...i tried talking to one of the mechanics about the Evo and he said his wife owned an automatic Evo...i just walked out after that. :shock:</div>
Where do you live ??
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Stewi)</div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(galant_got_speed)</div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Jet Black)</div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(galant_got_speed)</div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Stewi)</div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(galant_got_speed)</div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(gtx)</div><div class='quotemain'>You really have to do a search on this there's plenty of information here and on the 3G sites. (I don't even have an I4 to start with). Â*
You might want to check http://www.tearstone.com to get an idea just for a complete kit.</div>
Yah i saw the Basic complete kit...but i have a 2000 and would need the different midpipe right? for the extra 200 they charge..brings me to about 2500 for the kit...im not even sure what places charge for installation on these things, im prob looking at ABOUT 3k..i want to make CLOSE to 200WHP..im not even out to race..i just want the power to put those assholes who try and taunt you in their place ya no? lol https://www.thegalantcenter.org/styl...lt/biggrin.gif</div>
I'll tell you what, I know for a fact, turboing your I4 with installation will be cheaper then swapping out for a V6.</div>
Is it really THAT expensive to do the Engine Swap? hell ill just turbo then...now i get to have fun finding a place that wont force me to take out 6 loans, mortgage my parents house and whatnot to get it installed...lol</div>
Why don't you go find out yourself. Ask a few Mitsu mechs in your area about the swap. After they finish laughing their asses off, they will most likely mirror Stewi's responce.
BTW Stewi's advice carries a good bit of weight (resume: a few motor swaps).</div>
Yah i know who Stewi is..ive been reading these forums for a while now just never really post....but yah the mitsu dealer around here is a freakin joke...they tried making me pay 15 bucks for my radio code and i bitched until i walked out with it for free...i tried talking to one of the mechanics about the Evo and he said his wife owned an automatic Evo...i just walked out after that. :shock:</div>
Where do you live ??</div>
New Hampshire
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(galant_got_speed)</div><div class='quotemain'>Yah i know who Stewi is..ive been reading these forums for a while now just never really post....but yah the mitsu dealer around here is a freakin joke...they tried making me pay 15 bucks for my radio code and i bitched until i walked out with it for free...i tried talking to one of the mechanics about the Evo and he said his wife owned an automatic Evo...i just walked out after that. Â*:shock:</div>
Holy crap dude, wtf? You should have asked him what tranny he decided to swap into her Evo.
Ya stealership is full of bitches. No reason a fuel injector should cost $200 (the stock 360cc 3000GT VR4 injectors).
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Jet Black)</div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(galant_got_speed)</div><div class='quotemain'>Yah i know who Stewi is..ive been reading these forums for a while now just never really post....but yah the mitsu dealer around here is a freakin joke...they tried making me pay 15 bucks for my radio code and i bitched until i walked out with it for free...i tried talking to one of the mechanics about the Evo and he said his wife owned an automatic Evo...i just walked out after that. Â*:shock:</div>
Holy crap dude, wtf? You should have asked him what tranny he decided to swap into her Evo.
Ya stealership is full of bitches. No reason a fuel injector should cost $200 (the stock 360cc 3000GT VR4 injectors).</div>
haha yah, dealership is completely ridiculous..i prefer buying my cars private sale because i cant trust dealers at all..its sad.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Serstylz2)</div><div class='quotemain'>actually its called F1 Dyno i think</div>
Im looking at the F1 Dyno site...they state they charge 65 bucks an hour for labor...what is the minimum time they take? i dont want them "claiming" it took them 3 days to do it and then charge me more than the turbo kit is worth...i was hoping to keep EVERYTHING below 3500...parts and labor.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(galant_got_speed)</div><div class='quotemain'>..i just want the power to put those assholes who try and taunt you in their place ya no? lol Â*:D</div>
i know what you mean. before my 8g i had a... *drum roll* 90 corolla! it was pushing max 37 hp. fact: i once beat a segway in the 1/4 mile by half a car length!
http://www.polishmafia.com/galant4.jpg
i just like the fact that now i can pass people on the freeway https://www.thegalantcenter.org/styl...fault/wink.gif
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(polishmafia)</div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(galant_got_speed)</div><div class='quotemain'>..i just want the power to put those assholes who try and taunt you in their place ya no? lol Â*:D</div>
i know what you mean. before my 8g i had a... *drum roll* 90 corolla! it was pushing max 37 hp. fact: i once beat a segway in the 1/4 mile by half a car length!
http://www.polishmafia.com/galant4.jpg
i just like the fact that now i can pass people on the freeway https://www.thegalantcenter.org/styl...fault/wink.gif</div>
haha yah i have no problem passing people...but you ALWAYS come across the wanker who feels the need to cut you off or fuck with you...and i dont have the power to say F YOU right back...turbo is the only thing that will get me over the edge...also what kind of times have people been recording on I4's with 8-10 PSI?
I don't mean to go offtopic, but if you want the power mainly to put ricers in their place, consider nitrous. It is a lot cheaper, mechanically much simpler, and discreet. Plus you only use it when you need it, so your fuel economy stays the same.
FYI, I still have the same fuel economy with my turbo setup, as long as I dont get into boost. https://www.thegalantcenter.org/styl...lt/biggrin.gif
i just got a reply to an email i sent to F1 Dyno about a turbo install...
You would be looking at $5000 for the complete turbo kit installed and tuned out
the door . We charge flat rate for this type of work NOT by the hour . Let us know
if we can help you out with anything else .
does that sound a bit overpriced? he didnt specify what kind of parts...5 grand is a SHITLOAD of money...i could get a tearstone basic kit for 2300...but i have nooone to install it...
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(galant_got_speed)</div><div class='quotemain'>i just got a reply to an email i sent to F1 Dyno about a turbo install...
You would be looking at $5000 for the complete turbo kit installed and tuned out Â*
the door . We charge flat rate for this type of work NOT by the hour . Let us know Â*
if we can help you out with anything else .
does that sound a bit overpriced? he didnt specify what kind of parts...5 grand is a SHITLOAD of money...i could get a tearstone basic kit for 2300...but i have nooone to install it...</div>
yeah its alot because he prolly figured he would need to fabricate a manifold and piping for you. Tell him your gonna bring him a complete kit made for your car and you just want it installed
I emailed him again and he said 1200-1500 for installation...Quote:
Originally Posted by Stewi
"$1200-1500 installed and fully tuned ."
so im looking at 2500 for the basic kit because i need the 200 dollar custom midpipe...then another 1500 most likely for installation...4 grand isnt a pretty number...maybe NOS is a more realistic thing for me...i just suck at installing things, and F1 charges 300 bucks to install a kit..ridiculous lol