what do i need to put the bumper on my car? because i heard that the crash bar have to be removed.:smt041
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what do i need to put the bumper on my car? because i heard that the crash bar have to be removed.:smt041
buy it and you will realize whatit takes.
yes, you can't use a crash bar. you need a custom one made
There is one for sale on ebay for lik 300 shiped right now from the same guy I got my vr4 bumper from and you will have it in two days from jdm land
i just bought the bumper i m just trying to get the old one out , but i have problems with the location of the clips ,bolts etc...
lol yea i was having that problem too lol its easier they you think
There are the 2 bolts on the fenders, 2 bolts behind the grills and 4 bolts in the frame of the car, just spray the 4 under the car with some penetrating oil and let them sit for a lil while, should come out with a socket and a nice extension.
While mounting my jdm i had some trouble because how he ships the bumper the two slides kinda got bet a bit.
and for the crash bar i didnt even make one for my car, you can go this route too just pray to god that you never hit anything (which im pretty sure that you will be really careful with it like i am with mine)
and on a last note you are going to have to remount your horn because the jdm bumper interfere with the stock horn location
Hope this helps.
i never had problem removing the bumper. sometimes taking the t-bar off helps.Quote:
Originally Posted by Galant306m
i just bent the horn out of the way
crashbar is a must. i don't have one but i am getting one made
there are 4 bolts on the fenders for the front bumper.. 2 are in the wheel well easy to see and get to and 2 under the headlights which are the bitch to get 2
in the frame where? they can be seen below the bumper or do i have to open the hood to see them? right now i have gotten out the ones that goes behind the grill ,the clips below ,the ones that are visible behind the bumper , i can "t locate the others please guide me with this.
there are 2 bolts that areall the way at the end of the fender by the headlight.. your going to need a long extension and you access them from the wheel well.. if you have issues go to the 7g cleared corner tutorial cuz he tells you step by step what to take off
k..i have a 98 7g...and i have my diamond edt. bumper on the way...
do you think custom welding some steel pipe from the frame and along the inside of the bumper be sufficient enough for a replacement crashbar?
yup. the original was fiberglass. just get the bumper in first then see what is the thickest piece of metal you can put in thereQuote:
Originally Posted by DJ_Devistatix
awesome..i cant wait!
thought you guys might like to hear this information......
me and my buddy spent a lot of time dinking around with the bumper trying to figure out how to bolt it up best...at first i though the fog light brackets were in the way...we later found out that you have to actually take out the crash bar supports...the fog brackets then slide into the same bracket that the crash bar supports were in...and bolt right up to the frame...adding extra stability to the bumper and adding a little bit of safety (the brackets are made of metal)...i dont see how you can properly mount this bumper without them...unless you modify something...so yeah...im not sure how many people have this knowledge of the bumper...but i thought that it would be useful..chee
wrong. my crashbar supports are still in and don't get in the way. you fitment issue might have been from the wreck. you do not have to remove the crashbar brackets to fit the bumper. just the crash bar since the bumper sits in like 2" closer. something isn't rightQuote:
Originally Posted by DJ_Devistatix
and the brackets you got were more than the bracket. thats the JDM crashbar. it's not beefy and as strong as the USDM one. for you to mount fogs with OEM brackets you need the JDM crashbar.
ooo i c..i thought the jdm crash bar was a separate piece that would go across the inside of the bumper somehow...i dont see how these pieces of metal would stop any impact...they are pretty thin, and they bend really easy
this makes the headlights install much much easier as well
ya the JDM bar is foil. it's almost useless. but what we all do is bend the top of the supports back with a hammer.Quote:
Originally Posted by DJ_Devistatix
with most 7G's we are lowered, so all the impact is on the t-bar/hood.
my new crash bar is my intercooler. :(
I wonder...if you cut off the existing crash bar, shave like 2-2 1/2" off the brackets and weld them back on...could you use the usdm stock crash bar? A little more work, but sounds feasable
possibly...but you would probably have to modify the JDM fog brackets as well in order to have them fit with the modified crashbar (unless you arent using the fogs...or...you cut a lot off of the ends of the usdm crashbar)....and the usdm crash bar is hollow...if you cut too much of it its only gonna be like.... a quarter inch of fiberglass for protection...though if done right it is possible...i wouldnt trust myself doing it though..haha...
....if you have the ability to weld....this is what i would do.....
take off the old usdm crashbar and the usdm supports completely....use the jdm foglight brackets/crachsbar....weld some 1 1/2 inch steel piping into the same slot that you are using for the jdm crashbar, with enough space to still slide the bracket in and out when dealing with changes to the bumper, etc...it would probably help to weld the piping to the upper inside wall of the slot...maybe even add a few triangle supports into the bend somehow if you can get your measurements exact enough
either way..id still be a bit sketched about getting hit head on though......i should think this out some more and see if i can come up with an ultimate idea..hehe
best option is to weld some steel there for a crashbar
hey guys..my G came from the philippines..its a phdm, can you guys help where to find a crash bar...sorry im still a noob..thanxhttp://photos.friendster.com/photos/...697304926l.jpg
because im gonna convert the bumper into jdm..thanx
whats all this crash bar talk, just dont crash and there will be no need for a bar!
Ask Noel (Cali) why a crashbar is important.Quote:
Originally Posted by Galant306m
You can be the safest and most aware driver...but there are more idiots on the road than you. I am glad I kept my crash bar because once I was at a stop and some idiot made a illegal turn hit my car and if I didnt have my crash bar I would of been screwed BAD!