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I'm jus wondering if the hifonics are rele as powerful as they say...bcuz if so i want one..but somethin tells me there jus not what they say
Does anyone here have one or had? Say a Brutus BXI-1208D? 1,200w RMS @ 1 ohm?
Maybe any of the other ones too?
The Hifonics Brutus line is what it is hyped up to be in my opinion. Probably the only Hifonics I'd be buying. Buy a cleaner amplifier for the fronts, midrange, and midbass drivers.
they are good my bro has one with 2,000 wtts
Hmmm..alright..Well im running an MTX on my rear an front speakers..but my REfurbished MTX bass amp blew so im selling my kickers, an Jus bought 2 Type R 12's an lookn for a good amp for em...Any suggestions for those??
Also i think i read somewhere on sonic electronix that Hifonics arent CEA-complaint rated so i was 'Iffy
just get the hifonics
i have 2 12 type r if i remember correctly i think they run at 850 rms so u wanna find a amp that will give u no more than 800 rms at 2 ohms x2 right now im only pushing at 300 watts each and they sound amazing ive gotten alot of compliments already
Alright, Ill prolly try the BXI-1610D then. Thanks guys!
2nd Gen Type R's 12" (the ones with the R in the center of the cone factory specs is 500w RMS, 3rd Gen Type R's (Little R in the Bottom of the cone specs say to take 600w RMS, They are known to take maybe 750w RMS each without a problem but that depends on your box etc., For 2 12" Type R's I would recommend the MB Quart DSC 1500.1 if yours are 4ohm DVC, its known to do rated. I recommend you doing a google search on the amps or asking at a car audio forum.Quote:
Originally Posted by jimmy_o2
first you need to know of your running your 12's on solo amps or split bridging(1amp 2 speakers) and does you box have two seperate wire panels. are you using an upgraded secondary battery and or alternator, any caps on the lines what gauge wires what brand wires(yes it makes a diff)-(diff brands use diff strand counts) equalizer or sound. alpine 12 R's pass through bottom end mid bass up to middle end Low Bass so you might want to look into a non monoblock bass amp and put high freq filters on the line.
Brutus BXI-1208D
Type: Mono Block
1-Ohm Power Rating 1x1200
2-Ohm Power Rating 1x900
the 12 R's at 2x2ohm bridgable to 1ohm and 4x4ohmsbridgable to 2ohms are both rated at
SPECIFICATIONS
Power Handling
CEA-2031 Power Rating: 600 Watts
Power Range: 600 - 1800 Watts
RMS Power Handling: 600 Watts
Peak Power Handling: 1800 Watts
this means you putting 300 more rated power at all times in 2ohm mode and 600more at 1ohm mode
you cant run either speaker at 4ohms with the brutus amp or youll blow the amp and speakers. if you want help putting a set up together let me know and we can design one based off your budget
Don't worry about the amplifiers you buy being CEA complaint, that is industry fluff.Quote:
Originally Posted by The_fresh_Galant
i ran a 1208d for years w/ no problems (although my electrical system was slightly upgraded so it got 14.2-12.6 volts at all times )
thanks for more replys guys.
I kno how to wire em, there dual 2 ohms. I'll run em 1 ohm seperate channel on a hifoniccs.
And all my electricals are upgraded too.
Also Ricky, Were you running type R's?
I have the 2nd Gen. Dual 2 ohm. Ill be Replacing my 4 gauge to 0 gauge. I've decided only one amp. I have a 140 amp H.O.A. Also a 3 farad Cap. I also have a Clarion E.Q.Quote:
Originally Posted by jubeiaire
Now im debating between MTX 1000XD, Hifonics BXI-1210, or BXI-1610???
I have a 140 amp [H.O.A.]<-------define that please...
High Output Alternator
no i was running 2 fosgate 15s
Oh Ok Ricky...... So Would most agree that the BXI-1210d will power them pretty much perfect in a ported box???
ok so i typed out a big lone explanation for you but i fell asleep and lost it lol
so heres the short version
with your dual 2 ohm speakers you only have two options of wiring .5 or 2 ohms
the hifonics amp will do 900 @2ohms so that would be 450 to each sub witch is decent you wont have to worry about blowing your subs
also at 2 ohms your amp will run cooler longer and have better efficiency
there are amps that do full power @2 ohms but they are not in the price range of the hifonics
also a class d amp or mono block amp only has one channel (i know hifonics has two sets of speaker outputs but they are connected inside still making one channel)
hyfonics is one of the best bangs for your buck it is all how you wire it and what kind of subs you are running. running @ 2ohm's with a pair of dual voice coil subs is one way to get the most power out of your amp. i have hyfonics amp on 2 15" solobaric L7's i set off car alarms all day long cant even turn it up all the way i hurts my ears
You'd actually have .5ohm, 2ohm, and 8ohm.Quote:
Originally Posted by ricky_db
http://www.the12volt.com/caraudio/wo...2&I=22#results
You could even have a 4ohm load with a two channel bridged amplifier.
yea Redgalant i didnt want to put the 8 ohms because im figuring he would get 225 watt total to try and run two type R's. (to me) its a waste of time and a decent amp.
and OP about your box type i have only heard one sealed box in my whole car audio stent
that i liked, im a ported guy all the way (i like deep bass). i heard that 08-pres 12" type R's like 2-2.25 cft (not including port area)
Alright, Well the guy i had ordered the subs off of says he cant send them now an is refunding my money so I been Kinda p.oed, But im jus ordering a brand new model set now, I knew hifonics had like, 2 speaker outputs, but i thot if u ran em seperatd each at 1 ohm it would be a final of 1 ohm still?? i didnt kno it wasnt like that.
I figure now 2 SWR-1223d on a Brutus BXI-1610d @ 2ohms will be good?
well why not just buy the 1243ds its the dual 4ohm option and stick to your original plan?
So you think i should run em at 1 ohm on the BXI-1210d? an i read on alpine. com that the dual 2 ohm version hit a lil bit lower bass?? or do they jus sound the same an thats jus bs?
since 1200 watts is the max you can put out and the RMS of your subs i would go with it.
anything else would be over kill but a bit of headroom isnt to bad as long as you vvvvv
get dual 4ohm subs
dont crank the gain level
and keep above 12 volts going to the amp
oh and the lower bass part depends on what type of music you listen to but over all it wont be noticeable
ok then, Yea ill get the 1600w rms then an ill have plenty of extra power so im not run'n my amp to death and i listen to everything so ok.
Thanks Ricky, an everyone else. Ill prolly be thrown some vids on youtube soon too.
i hava brutus from what i have heard it tuned right and set up correctly it will put out more than it says
most importantly is to follow the break in period for your subs. start hammering them too soon and you run a high risk of popping the cone.
how long should i wait?..ive never known how long it usully ake
it should be on the papers with the speaker but ill look it up...its a specific amount of play time at 1/4-1/2 power. when i got my xtypes i just drove the car for two days just play the speakers the alotted time and get away from the oldlady.
oh and becarefull if its cold out where you live. let the car warm up inside first during break in. its not on alpines site but it works out to be around 4h1/4pw 4h1/2pw 2h3/4pw Then crank it.
I always broke them in by living the gains all the way down for a few weeks. Then never past 1/2 to 3/4.
thats about the right timing Red. most people wont just drive around for 5hrs a day for two days just to break in the speakers. then again im a nut so i did it....what who said that ..ill eat your heart with a spoon...........Quote:
Originally Posted by RedGalant2k1
lol..alright..thanks guys