XXR/Fitment

So XXR just redid their website (link below) and it's très dope. I've been planning on getting the 522s for years but those have been replaced by the 551s. Anyway, those have now gone out the window in favor of the newly released 550s, I also like the 553s but honestly Oddball just ain't that aggressive. In the interest of saving $$$ I plan on pre-ordering the bronze 550s (link below) and I need a little help with fitment. From what I understand by reading a few threads on offset I should be able to fit the 18x8.75 +36mm offsets without rubbing or cutting the fenders. But as anyone I wanna fit the most aggressive setup I can without sacrificing drivability, so if I went with the +19mms, would that cause any issues? FYI Oddball's an 03 LS V6.

Also, what do yall think about all the new styles?

XXR's site
550s on NLM

They're neat for replica wheels just long as you don't hit a 3 inch deep pot hole. Most of the stance out Galant you see on Facebook rock these (because the wheels are worth 1/4 the price of the KBB value) so money isn't a primary factor in these.

Waiting for Mr. Wheel Pro Cody to chime in on this.

He will be in absolute disgust.

He's welcome to his opinion.


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These wheels suck.

All XXR suck.

Not even because knock-offs (which most of these aren't or if they are...they're knockoffs of stuff that sucks and that I've never heard of)

As for the sizing, have fun making them look decent. The sizing is aggressive enough where you'll likely have substantial amounts of poke at stock camber, if you add a good bit of negative camber and the car is not low enough.....it'll still look dorky; and with how few Galants I've seen that were low enough to pull off a 'flush' look, I can't imagine you'll be the first if you're cheaping out in order to attain some ugly wheels.

On the topic of the 550 & 553, they're just ugly. Neither will look good at all on an 8g (or any other car for that matter). Finish quality will be poor (as it is on all XXR) and yeah, they suck.

Hope I didn't disappoint y'all.

Are you Cody?


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I am referred to by that moniker, yes.

Coming from someone with equally strong yet substantially less loud opinions, I disagree. Do you have any advice for fitment?


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Originally Posted by oddball

Coming from someone with equally strong yet substantially less loud opinions, I disagree. Do you have any advice for fitment?


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What do you disagree with?

That XXR are generally low quality? Have you ever owned/handled a wheel produced by Advan/BBS/Ray's? If not, trust me, they're worlds nicer.

That the fitment will look horrible? You haven't looked at enough 8g's that are 'flush' with 3" of wheel gap and 1" of poke.

I recommend a conservative set-up, the 8g is simply not well suited for going low.

Cody has some good points. I am one to be the first to say who cares what wheel brand you buy as long as it works, but XXR is not one of the wheel brands I'd recommend simply because if you look at a cracked XXR, you will see how poor the casting is. It is not strong at all and very cheaply made. I've had American racing wheels, rotas, works, 5zigens, etc. I also have experience with literally beating the shit out of these wheels on the daily due to all my friends drifting all summer every summer. You will snap an xxr in half on a rumble strip and a volk, work, enkei will just maybe chip the paint.

If you pick up an xxr in one hand and pick up a work wheel in the other you will feel the quality in just your finger tips. The way the spokes feel the xxr has a slightly sharper edge (bad casting/mold/production) the works will feel solid in your hand.

Even my beloved rotas feel much worse compared to my 5 zigen FN01RC. I had a BRAND NEW set of grids vs a VERY USED set of FN01RC.

Don't even get me started on MB Battles. They are very good looking wheels and very affordable. But for how heavy those motherfuckers are they sure bend easy.

I'm not in any way saying that buying the more expensive wheels is better than buying the more affordable sets but I just wanted to state the differences and why they are priced the way they are.

As far as stancing out a galant. (I'm not gonna call it aggressive because aggressive to me is not stretched rubber band tires on poor offset wheels I'm thinking more like meaty functional rubber on a functional width wheel), you may need to play with removing the collars, using shorter springs, pulling/rolling the fenders, etc. it can be done but I have yet to see it executed properly. Even my car needed a bit more lower ride height up front back in my "stanced" days. Also the galant is a "face down ass up" kinda car so they tend to look good with a "leveled" height.

^Actually got wheels for Ms. Blue, some cheap Konigs. They're not knockoffs of anything and they're fairly light, they'll do the job of getting her to school/work and back home just fine. I'd rather spend more money on nice tires (BFG Sport Comp 2's in this case) than expensive wheels if I can only have one or the other.

I'd buy used high-end wheels for my own car, but for her I'd rather have something that's never potentially been knocked out of round, faced any stresses/abuse from previous owners who just didn't care/pay attention. I'll let you guys know what I think when I've had a chance to really look them over.

I disagree that they're a low quality rim. They're a medium quality rim. You're holding them to racing standards, something I'm not doing.

I disagree that the fitment will look horrible. They don't need to sit 2" above the fender, they need to fill the wheel well more than stock rims do.

I agree with a conservative setup for a conservative purchase, I was just weighing my options.


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@4g thanks for all that input. I assume XXRs were gravity cast cuz it's the cheapest method but seeing as how the industry is pushing for at least a light pressure casting for the standard and how they've made enough money to scale up and still make enough margin on each rim to sell for cheap, Ima say they're pressure cast now, all speculation though. Either way, even a gravity cast wheel is still strong, like I said I'm not racing. But I'll go somewhere and feel the wheels for myself and make a judgment, thanks for the tip.

As far as terminology goes, I'd say a step below stancing, I'm not altering the camber for appearance and I'm definitely not stretching the tires. Really I'm just buying rims. And no joke about face down, Mitsu caved a bit on some of the small aesthetic things IMO.


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Originally Posted by oddball

I disagree that they're a low quality rim. They're a medium quality rim. You're holding them to racing standards, something I'm not doing.

I disagree that the fitment will look horrible. They don't need to sit 2" above the fender, they need to fill the wheel well more than stock rims do.

I agree with a conservative setup for a conservative purchase, I was just weighing my options.


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If XXR are medium quality, PLEASE tell me what a low quality wheel looks like.

I would put ROTAS on my car before XXR. And every person on this forum can easily tell you my feelings on replica wheels.

if youre going to stance your car out you need to either go all out or not at all. theres no real in between. I wont talk about wheels, but going +19 offset on our platform is going to kill your driveability. there is no way you can run that offset dropped and not on stretched tires without sacrificing your fenders, driveability and safety. you can try, but be prepared to spend money. just being honest, especially if this is your daily driver.

I don't know what to tell you man. The way you're throwing out low quality implies that wheel failure is eminent. It's the same paranoia every forum's wheel guy fills the internet with. You hate less than $3000 wheels, I get it.

I'm really not interested in this argument, which is why I didn't ask what yall thought of the build quality. I just wanna know about fitment, which dronesurfboards just answered (thanks dude).


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Originally Posted by oddball

I'm really not interested in this argument, which is why I didn't ask what yall thought of the build quality.

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In the OP you sort of indirectly asked.

"What do you guys think"

I still wouldn't let it affect your decision if you're sold on the XXRs. I'm certain Cody isn't holding a gun to your head to go buy BBS. This is your car, you have to walk up to thus car everyday to get in it, you are the one looking at it, you are the one who will be seen in it.

I would take some time and browse members cars pictures and when you like one ask their fitment.

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Originally Posted by oakrdrs187

In the OP you sort of indirectly asked.

"What do you guys think"

I still wouldn't let it affect your decision if you're sold on the XXRs. I'm certain Cody isn't holding a gun to your head to go buy BBS. This is your car, you have to walk up to thus car everyday to get in it, you are the one looking at it, you are the one who will be seen in it.

I would take some time and browse members cars pictures and when you like one ask their fitment.

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Like this one?

https://www.thegalantcenter.org/show...wheel-thread**

hey i plan on getting xxr 522 for the vr4 this summer when i get some doe but mind you most of the reason is because you can pritty much double the prize when i get em

im sorry but i just dont care if they arent up to race quality because legally there isnt a place here that i can go above 90kmh

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Originally Posted by oakrdrs187

In the OP you sort of indirectly asked.

"What do you guys think"

I still wouldn't let it affect your decision if you're sold on the XXRs. I'm certain Cody isn't holding a gun to your head to go buy BBS. This is your car, you have to walk up to thus car everyday to get in it, you are the one looking at it, you are the one who will be seen in it.

I would take some time and browse members cars pictures and when you like one ask their fitment.

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I did. I tried to word it to avoid responses not about style, but alas.

I've looked at a couple people's specific setups but the wheel I want only comes in 2 offsets, and it sounds like 1 won't work without stretching and cutting so I guess I've got my answer.


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Originally Posted by Blue8g

Like this one?

https://www.thegalantcenter.org/show...wheel-thread**

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That's actually where I started. That and that other thread where I forget who explains in great detail wheel sizing and gives examples. It's a sticky somewhere I think.


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Originally Posted by Palmz

hey i plan on getting xxr 522 for the vr4 this summer when i get some doe but mind you most of the reason is because you can pritty much double the prize when i get em

im sorry but i just dont care if they arent up to race quality because legally there isnt a place here that i can go above 90kmh

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Not sure what you mean about doubling the price? Cuz they're bein shipped overseas?

Regardless, check out the 551. Same wheel, updated name and the new center cap. Heads up though, the concavity that you see in all the pics that makes it look so compelling is pretty much non existent unless you get 9s or higher.


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For anyone still curious about quality, XXR uses a slow, light-pressure cast.

And both XXR and NLMs customer service are well versed and helpful, NLM even has recommended fitments on a car to car basis if you ask.

PS any new NLM custom colors (bronze for me) that are on pre order aren't expected to ship until April.


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Originally Posted by oddball

Not sure what you mean about doubling the price? Cuz they're bein shipped overseas?

Regardless, check out the 551. Same wheel, updated name and the new center cap. Heads up though, the concavity that you see in all the pics that makes it look so compelling is pretty much non existent unless you get 9s or higher.


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not so much shipping its import tax that gets me tires and wheels are the worst to import regarding tax over here

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That's actually where I started. That and that other thread where I forget who explains in great detail wheel sizing and gives examples. It's a sticky somewhere I think.

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I made that thread. The information held within is quite adequate for your use, and I've done plenty of fitments to test my theories.

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Originally Posted by oddball

For anyone still curious about quality, XXR uses a slow, light-pressure cast.

And both XXR and NLMs customer service are well versed and helpful, NLM even has recommended fitments on a car to car basis if you ask.

PS any new NLM custom colors (bronze for me) that are on pre order aren't expected to ship until April.

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Just because they produce their wheels like that doesn't automatically mean quality. The wheels you posted are definitely a replica of a ADVAN wheel. And whilst I won't spend your money, you should look at these following websites where you can pick up lightly used top quality wheels:

www.VRWHEELS.com
www.clublexus.com
www.stanceworks.com (I bought my wheels here.)

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Originally Posted by Blue8g

These wheels suck.

All XXR suck.

Not even because knock-offs (which most of these aren't or if they are...they're knockoffs of stuff that sucks and that I've never heard of)

As for the sizing, have fun making them look decent. The sizing is aggressive enough where you'll likely have substantial amounts of poke at stock camber, if you add a good bit of negative camber and the car is not low enough.....it'll still look dorky; and with how few Galants I've seen that were low enough to pull off a 'flush' look, I can't imagine you'll be the first if you're cheaping out in order to attain some ugly wheels.

On the topic of the 550 & 553, they're just ugly. Neither will look good at all on an 8g (or any other car for that matter). Finish quality will be poor (as it is on all XXR) and yeah, they suck.

Hope I didn't disappoint y'all.

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Surprised to hear you say that, they are clearly a copy of a ADVAN AVS F15:

http://www.wheelplususa.com/images/w..._Black_500.jpg

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Originally Posted by Blue8g

^Actually got wheels for Ms. Blue, some cheap Konigs. They're not knockoffs of anything and they're fairly light, they'll do the job of getting her to school/work and back home just fine. I'd rather spend more money on nice tires (BFG Sport Comp 2's in this case) than expensive wheels if I can only have one or the other.

I'd buy used high-end wheels for my own car, but for her I'd rather have something that's never potentially been knocked out of round, faced any stresses/abuse from previous owners who just didn't care/pay attention. I'll let you guys know what I think when I've had a chance to really look them over.

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New wheels can still be substantially out of round. Also a 18x8.75" +36 won't have very much poke at all at stock camber settings.

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Originally Posted by RedGalant2k1

I made that thread. The information held within is quite adequate for your use, and I've done plenty of fitments to test my theories.



Just because they produce their wheels like that doesn't automatically mean quality. The wheels you posted are definitely a replica of a ADVAN wheel. And whilst I won't spend your money, you should look at these following websites where you can pick up lightly used top quality wheels:

www.VRWHEELS.com
www.clublexus.com
www.stanceworks.com (I bought my wheels here.)



Surprised to hear you say that, they are clearly a copy of a ADVAN AVS F15:

http://www.wheelplususa.com/images/w..._Black_500.jpg



New wheels can still be substantially out of round. Also a 18x8.75" +36 won't have very much poke at all at stock camber settings.

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I don't enjoy those F15 and have never seen them put to use on a car, so nope, wouldn't recognize them.

8.75 +36 will certainly be flush up front at stock camber settings. My 8j +40 had some poke at stock camber with 225/45/17 tires.