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    Making the 8G go faster - Forced Induction Info

    NOTE: This first post of this thread will be constantly updated as much as possible.

    I will not get into which application is better, the purpose of this thread is to provide information only. Please start another thread if you wish to discuss which way (turbo/supercharger/nitrous) is better/worse.

    <span style='font-size:25pt;line-height:100%'>Introduction</span>
    There have been a lot of questions lately about how to make the Galant run faster. As of now, there are not many "bolt-ons" that exist for the 4G64 (I4) and 6G72 (V6) engines that our 8Gs use. Yes, the Galant is not a sports car, but it can be made to be more "sporty." Fortunately, the Galant shares most of the same engine and suspension mechanics as the 3G Eclipse (2000-2005) so their growing aftermaket will also apply to our Galants.

    First, lets look at the obvious first choice of getting the Galant to go - forced induction. Basically the idea of forced induction is to push more air into the engine than a standard, normally aspirated engine regularly breaths in. The most popular methods are via supercharger or turbo.

    <span style='font-size:25pt;line-height:100%'>Basics</span>
    Both the turbo and supercharger are basically glorified air pumps - the difference is how the pumps are driven. Turbochargers use the engines own exhaust flow to drive a turbine that inturn drives another turbine that forces the air into the engine. A superchager, on the other hand, uses a belt drive connected to the engine to send more air. For more info on the basic operation of a turbo or supercharger check the following links:
    http://auto.howstuffworks.com/turbo.htm
    http://auto.howstuffworks.com/question122.htm
    Supercharging, Turbocharging and Nitrous Oxide Performance by Earl and Diane Davis
    (more to be added)

    <span style='font-size:25pt;line-height:100%'>Superchargers</span>
    As far as I know, there are no custom built supercharged 8G Galants. A custom supercharger was produced for the 6G72 engine, but that was for another car. Currently, there is only one supercharger kit available, and that is from Ripp Mods, Inc. RPW out of Australia is currently developing a supercharger and hopefully it will be out by the end of this year. Tearstone Performance Solutions sells a modified version of the V6 Ripp Supercharger:
    Ripp Mods I4 Supercharger
    Ripp Mods V6 Supercharger
    Tearstone Modified Used V6 Ripp Mods Supercharger
    Tearstone V6 Ripp Mods Supercharger Modification Kit

    Headers
    Superchargers require headers to function properly. There a a few different brands available:
    DC Sports I4 Header
    DC Sports V6 Header (TBA)
    Hytech (Custom Made Long Tube))
    OBX (Short Tube)
    Ripp Mods I4 Header (Long Tube)
    Ripp Mods V6 Headers (Long Tube)
    RPW I4 Street Header (Short Tube)
    RPW V6 Street and Race Design Headers (Short and Long Tube) (NOTE: Short Tube "Street" Design out of production)
    AMSS/BFD/CMF/XI Racing Headers (Short Tube)

    Other Links and Resources
    Supercharged! by Corky Bell
    RIPP SDS FAQ (Brought to you buy an actual SDS owner and installer)
    SDS Install Documentary, 1 man install

    <span style='font-size:25pt;line-height:100%'>Turbochargers</span>
    There are a few members of this board that have successfuly turbocharged their 8G I4s, and a few upcoming V6s using their own parts instead of a kit. For more information, try these links:
    Jet Black's V6 Turbo Project
    G2IC Turbo Guide (intended for Integras, but lots of universal information)

    For those that just want a ready made "kit," there are actually a few available:
    Doug's Dyno Power I4 and V6 Turbo Kits
    Max-Rev Motorsports (PDF Format, I4 Only, V6 Kit planned)
    Tearstone I4 Turbo Kits
    Tearstone V6 Turbo Kit

    RPW V6 Twin Turbo Kit
    Xtech V6 Turbo Kit (No longer in production)

    Other Links and Resources
    http://www.homemadeturbo.com/
    Turbo Bible for Newbies
    Maximum Boost by Corky Bell
    Turbochargers by Hugh MacInnes

    <span style='font-size:25pt;line-height:100%'>Nitrous</span>
    Nitrous links+information for beginners

    <span style='font-size:25pt;line-height:100%'>Engine/Transmission Upgrades</span>
    Engine Swaps (TBD)

    Pistons (TBD)

    Porting and Polishing (Draft)
    Ported and Polished Intake Manifolds, side by side comparison
    Head Porting for the Do-It-Yourselfer

    Intake Manifold Swap (Draft)
    The reason people swap out the intake manifold (plenium) is to provide more airflow into the engine, as well as getting the air to each cylinder more evenly through equal length runners. If you notice the stock V6 plenium is squished. Compared to the Eclipse GTS and Diamante pleniums, all the runners are the same length. Both of these parts are almost direct bolt-ons to our engine, with a few modifications needed here and there to fit correctly.

    3G Eclipse GTS Plenium


    98-02 3.5L (Without Traction Control) Diamante Plenium


    High Stall Torque Converter (TBD)
    A torque converter is for automatic transmissions only, and allow the car to launch at higher RPMS, for faster launches.
    Rezlo's High Stall Torque Converters

    Automatic Transmission Upgrades (TBD)

    Manual Transmission Swap (TBD)

    <span style='font-size:25pt;line-height:100%'>Important Tools</span>
    Gauges
    EGT - an Exhaust Gas Temperature gauge monitors the temperature of your exhaust usually at the exhaust manifold. If the temperature is too hot, then you can have serious problems.

    Boost - measures the amount of "boost" or air pressure being fed to the engine.

    Fuel Pressure

    Air/Fuel Ratio - ideally you would want to get a wideband sensor, such as a Zeitronix or AEM UEGO, rather than the cheaper narrow band sensors which give you little information and is more "bling" than anything.

    Datalogging Tools
    Data logging tools are important as they let you know what is going on with your engine. Some of the things that are monitored include throttle position, long and short term fuel trims, intake air temperature, etc. These tools interrface with the car via the OBD connector located under the steering-wheel and just above the accelerator pedal, and then connect to a computer (dedicated, laptop, or PDA).
    ODB Gauge for Palm and PocketPC (Freeware)




    Compression Tester

    Leakdown Tester

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    I just thought that i'd point out that many of the product links on this post are now broken.

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    good one!!!

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    yeah, ripp mods don't make the i4 supercharger anymore, link's broken
    Be proud to own a Galant!!

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    even the links to the DC header is broken
    '00 Mitsubishi Galant ES 4g64T (Samantha)
    '01 Mitsubishi Galant ES 4g64 (Daily)
    '02 Mitsubishi Galant ES 4g64 (SCRAPPED)
    '00 Mitsubishi Galant ES 4g64 (SCRAPPED)
    '91 Volvo 740 Turbo B230FT (SOLD)
    '88 Mitsubishi Mighty Max (SOLD)
    '91 Kawasaki ZX7 (SOLD)
    '95 Kawasaki ZX9R

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    Quote Originally Posted by xcman1206
    yeah, ripp mods don't make the i4 supercharger anymore, link's broken
    what would you expect with a 2 year old thread>?

    Quote Originally Posted by spdracr
    even the links to the DC header is broken
    there's a link to the DC header??

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    lol i meant the RIPP header, mistypo
    '00 Mitsubishi Galant ES 4g64T (Samantha)
    '01 Mitsubishi Galant ES 4g64 (Daily)
    '02 Mitsubishi Galant ES 4g64 (SCRAPPED)
    '00 Mitsubishi Galant ES 4g64 (SCRAPPED)
    '91 Volvo 740 Turbo B230FT (SOLD)
    '88 Mitsubishi Mighty Max (SOLD)
    '91 Kawasaki ZX7 (SOLD)
    '95 Kawasaki ZX9R

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    Good write up :smt023

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