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    Quote Originally Posted by theblackpearl View Post
    after my recent experiences with changing the timing belt on my g and all the shit i had to go through to get it timed correctly and everything i thought i would put a tutorial together..so here it goes..



    these arent pics of my car i took them from blkkamikazegs on club 3g so thank him for the pics if need be.
    and remember i am in no way responsible for you messing anything up while performing this task.


    first thing is to jack up the car and support it with jack stands. once that is done remove the passenger side front tire and splash guard.the splash guard will have three bolts and i think three plastic clip things you need to remove to get it off

    tire removed and splash guard that needs to be removed
    next take the jack and a small block of wood and place it under the oil pan on the engine. dont jack it up just yet just support it for when you remove the motor mount. the mount and bolts needing to be removed pictured below..also you need to slide the coolant resovoir out in order to gain access to one of the bolts, pull it up towards you and it will come right out.



    pictured is the mount removed

    next you need to remove the acc. belts.
    here is the A/C - P/S belt there is a bolt tensioner that you need to loosen up in order to get the belt enough slack to be removed. there is a locking bolt on the side that you will need to loosen up before you can loosen the tensioner.

    same procedure goes for the altenator/water pump belt. loosen the lockin bolt then the tensioner. there is also a bolt on the back side of the altenator you will need to loosen in order to get the belt off.


    here is the engine without the acc. belts and the motor mount...


    next remove the cam gear cover. there should be about four bolts holding it in place..remove those and it will slide right off..


    pic of the cover removed

    now for the lower timing belt cover. you need to remove the crank pulley pictured below



    in order to get the crank shaft bolt out since i dont have air tools i took a pretty burly ratchet and socket wedged the ratchet against the frame of the car, unpluged the coil packs, and cranked the engine for just a second, and it broke loose. the crank rotates clockwise so figure out which way you need to position the ratchet in order to get the bolt loose.


    pic of the crankshaft bolt removed

    next remove the four bolts holding the pulley to the crank. once pulley is removed it should look like this..


    now next is to remove the lower timing cover. in order to get this out i had to remove the water pump pulley. there are four small 10mm bolts holding it on..its kind of tricky to get the bolts off have a friend help you keep the pulley from spinning..also youll have to raise the engine slightly in order to remove the pulley from the shaft.

    pic of the pulley removed..


    there should be about 5 bolts holding the lower timing cover on. remove those and slide it out from under the car.

    this is the cover removed..in order to get the belt off your going to have to loosen a blue pulley which is just out of view in this pic, its up higher on the block. once that is loosend there should be enough slack in the belt to remove it. and once you have the belt off, you need to remove the sprocket, it slides off with a little effort. dont mind the circled bolts in this pic you wont need to remove those till after you get the sprocket off.


    then comes the crank position sensor. two bolts hold it in place remove those and the sensor plate.
    pictured is the timing belt off, sprocket removed and the sensor plate that needs to be removed. youll need to remove the hydraulic tensioner circled in order to get the plate out and gain access to the balance shaft belt. there are 2 12mm bolts holdin it in place.



    this is the balance shaft belt..it too has the same blue tensioner as the timing belt did. all you need to do in ordr to remove the belt is loosen this tensioner and the belt should slide right off..you can either remove the tensioner completely or just loosen it..either way.


    here is a picture of everything removed..


    okay now here comes the fun part. gettin everything set to the correct timing specs. okay we will start with the cam gear and work our way down...

    1. the cam gear will have a notch on the side of it and possibly it will have a colored mark on it.(mine did) there will also be a notch in the valve cover right above the cam gear. you need to get the notch on the gear to line up with the notch on the valve cover. rotate the cam clockwise if you need to in order to get it lined up.

    2. the crankshaft- if you look on the crank position sensor plate there will be a notch taken out of it in one spot. slide this and the sprocket back onto the shaft and rotate it clockwise until you can line it up to the TDC markings that you will find on the lower timing belt cover. you can see them in one of the pics above(i dont know why they are on the outside cover its retarded)

    3. on the balance shaft(upper left corner of balance belt) you will see an arrow on the shaft sprocket. and to the left on the block there will be a notch. you need that arrow to line up with the notch..

    4.on the oil shaft(far right) there will also be an arrow on the sprocket, and you will see another arrow allong the perimiter of that sprocket that you need to line that up with.

    okay now that you have your timing marks set you can put the belts back on, start with the balance belt.

    in order to tension the balance belt youll need to rotate the blue pulley once the belt is on( i used a screwdriver to get enough leverage on the pulley to tension the belt. be careful though while youre tensioning the belt the timing settins have a tendency to move off of their marks. make sure they stay marked up.

    now there are a few things you need to do before puttin the new timing belt on. first....

    the hydraulic tensioner that you removed needs to be set again. to do this you need to put it in a vice or clamp and compress the shaft down until you can stick a small nail or pin of some kind through the holes and hold the shaft down..once youve done this you can bolt it back up onto the block.

    secondly get the timing belt on and make sure ALL of your timing settings are still to spec, if they have moved mess with the belt until you can get them lined up again.

    now to properly tension the belt. the blue tensioner for the timing belt will have two holes in it. i used an allen wrench to stick through one of these holes and had a friend pull up on it from above until the tension was properly set and then i tightened the bolt back down to hold the pulley in place, be sure the pulley doesnt rotate while your tightening it.

    now to check to see if your tension is correct youll need to crank the engine over a few times and go back to the pin you set in the hydraulic tensioner, if you can remove and replace the pin with ease your tension is correct. if you cant remove the pin and replace it without a lot of effort you need to re tension the blue pulley until you can remove and replace that pin into the hydraulic tensioner.

    now go ahead and start putting the covers and everything back on and you should be done..
    if i have missed anything someone please feel free to add.. its late and im not sure if i covered everything or not.. let me know what you guys think...
    I wanted to show some love to "theblackpearl". Not sure if this person is still on the forums, but I put my timing belt on today and this write up helped a bunch. I'll summarize what I learned along the way tomorrow; I'm exhausted...had a long day. Got the 8G running today though!!!

  2. #42
    just changed my timing belt using the methods from this post, everything runs as it should for now! thanks -matt

  3. #43
    Im about to hit 65,000 miles and will need to do my T-belt. Thanks Dustin for this tutorial, where ever you are now :)

  4. #44
    well after several test drives, i think i might have the timing belt or balance belt on too tight....... it feels like it is running ok, but not like it used to it feels like you have to give it more throttle to get it to speed up now..... anyone know what I mean? I am going to rip it apart tomorrow and re check it

  5. #45
    Yes, very helpful. Thank you, theblackpearl!

  6. #46
    Can someone pm me the pics from the original post if you have it. - Thanks

  7. #47
    Bumpy again - anyone have the pictures?

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    You are here entirely tooo much!!
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    damn, i need to do this tomorrow morning but no pictures =(

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  9. #49
    What pics do u need exactly??
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    any you can get me. i will be doing this throughout the week, hopefully have it done by saturday.

    Quote Originally Posted by IVORY_G View Post
    never pull out, always squeeze inside! LOL!

  11. #51
    Unfortunately I can't get pics but I can help u with any questions u have. I have removed and installed my timing belt numerous times and done a couple other cars. I'm good with it.
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    nvm. taking it to a shop. no time to fiddle with it since it wouldve been my first time.

    Quote Originally Posted by IVORY_G View Post
    never pull out, always squeeze inside! LOL!

  13. #53
    Sorry couldn't help with pics :(
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    its okay, thank you though!

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    never pull out, always squeeze inside! LOL!

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    Yea I know what u mesan about having a belt on too tight etc. I had mine done for a bit, then my car just stopped working turned out belt was timed correctly but blance shaft belt was too tight and broke and threw timing off by one tooth I was fortunate to still have an engine.

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    timing belt change pictures

    Are the pictures accompanying the timing belt change by the Black Pearl still
    available? I can't find them.

  17. #57
    Guys the manual does wonders when it comes to it. Just make sure u take your time and it should be fine. I never used any pics when I did mine and I did it on both of my cars and my cousin's. And took mine off aand installed it 3 times due to a leak from the oil pump cover. Its not that hard. Some parts are tricky and requires patience.
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  18. #58
    Hi! i'm going to do the timing belt replacement on my '05 Galant.

    1. Where can I find the 'balance shaft check plug' for this model? i was told i need to insert an 8mm philips head screwdriver in it.

    2. The TDC part, does it matter if i'm on a compression stroke or not when i align the timing marks?

    I'm a DIY guy and wanted to make sure i understand these stuff before starting messing up with my car. Thanks a lot in advance.

  19. #59
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    Are there still photos on this post??? I need to do mine, and need references other than the stupid "Haynes" Manual. I'm 55 - and not looking forward to doing this blind. Any really good tutorials with photos will be GREATLY appreciated!!!

  20. #60
    Anyone have any recommendations for brands of the timing belt kit? I can get a kit with both belts and all pulleys for $75 from dayco and the dayco actuator for $50. Is dayco good? I would get mitsu parts but they are soo expensive. Also any tips? I'm nervous doing this my first time, mostly about getting the right tension for both belts. Thanks

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