The Ulimate 7th Gen

[SamirDarji]

Okay, here's the question. If budget wasn't a problem, who would you want doing the following work:[LIST]My dilemma is not the funding, it's finding professional people that know what they're doing and will stand strongly behind their work. I don't care where they are located in the US or how much the cost. I only want some real, good work that won't fall apart or have excuses after 10k miles. So who would you recommend? Who's the dream shop/tuner in the Mitsu world?

Looking to make around 400-500whp on pump gas and use it as a daily driver. Import some JDM parts from Austrailia to convert the front to a JDM look, but still look fairly stock.

[seth98esT]

AMS, SBR, basically any DSM shop. Where are you located?

If money is not an option, may as well throw AWD into the mix!

[SuperGALANT]

yea i im thinkin that slowboy has a v6 twin turbo motor.. if money's not a factor then u have to go TT... and awd..

[seth98esT]

Not sure what v6 motor your talking about, but the only Mitsu v6 tt motor SBR would have would be a 3kgt VR4 motor which wouldnt fit.

If money is no option either go with a 2.4L DOHC setup with a nice sized single turbo. Or SBRs DE-strocked 2.1L motor(Use 4g64/4gcs 2.4L blocks) would be a killer setup. Those de-stroked motors rev so high and so fast. Could use such a large turbo and not worry about running out of RPMs to boost the turbo.

[theblackpearl]

:shock:

[DOHCstunr]

the only downside to a 2.1 is it doesn't make much power down low, and since it revs so high, you need a big turbo to make usable power in those area's.
the critical thing is that you won't find many places to rev to 10,500 in the city.

i think the best street strip setup would be a 2.4 or 2.3 stroker.
with that said, 2.4's are cheaper.

with a modestly built 2.4 you can make an easy 375-400hp. with some stronger internals, a big turbo, some nice flow work in the head. and a solid tune, you can make well over 500hp. you are never going to get close to these numbers on pump with any less displacement.


i would definatly find yourself a gsx parts car and do the awd swap. cause the power levels you are looking to make would be useless in a fwd.
useless. at least on the street,
and after a certain point, more hp isn't going to help your drag times at all.

definatly go straight to standalone. that will make your wiring not such a hassle. and you won't be limited to aem. you can run pretty much any system you want when there are no wiring contraints.

suspension upgrades are going to be key. prothanes, sway bars, a set of dampers. and definatly a modest cage to stiffen the body.


who to get a motor from?

if money is no object.
there is no substitute for magnus.
and if you are going to build a 2.4, build a longrod 2.4. they can take a ton more abuse and with the offset wristpins, they will resist predetonation much better.

magnus also builds one sick dogbox.
so get a magnus crate motor w/ awd dogbox. Magnus sheet metal intake manifold. 85mm accufab throttle body, 3" charge pipes.

fuel system? -8 an feed from your fuel cell. bored out fuel rail, -6 an to the regulator, then -6 back to the tank.
pte 1000cc injectors. big boy walbo inline pump.

with most aftermarket ems's you can run independant coils. do a true non wastespark coil on plug with a set of motec coils.

get a manifold with a t3 inlet. then run 3.5" all the way back. with a few long resonators for the street.

definatly get some light weight wheels. probably 16 x 8

need some upgraded brakes. since you will be doing the awd swap you will have 5 lug wheels so you will have a world of options as far as upgraded rotors. stainless steel lines and motul fluids.

i'm sure i could go on and on all day.

you want cheap labor?
buy the parts and pay me to do it.
i'll turn every screw. involved with everything above.
wiring, psh. i know the 7 g wiring harness like the back of my hand.

[peanotation]

400-500hp on pump gas...... :shock: :? :shock: :?

[SuperGALANT]

what i ment was that i dont know what motor hes refering to but the 3.0 v6 TT 7g vr4 motor.. if money is no option isn't that the only option?

[DOHCstunr]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(SuperGALANT)</div><div class='quotemain'>what i ment was that i dont know what motor hes refering to but the 3.0 v6 TT 7g vr4 motor.. if money is no option isn't that the only option?</div>
the 7g vr4 motor is a 2.0l twin turbo v6.

if money is no option, why not buy a porsche 911 gt2 and slap some mitsu galant badging on it.

or take one of AUDI's lemans cars and airbrush a 7g galant on it.

[SuperGALANT]

oh ok.. i didnt understand

[ChikagoGTZ]

Even though money is no option, I'd say buy yourself a 6g and get it done up by the boys at AMS...they should be able to get you 500whp easy enough, and they are sleepers if you dont do any body kits/rims and debadge or put ES badging on it...plus add phantom black painted intercooler and 16x9 wheels and an exhaust bypass butterfly valve

[Asmodeus]

Magnus.
Just call them up and order away.
Those guys seriously know what they are doing.
AMS as well. Snagging up a vr4 and dropping it off with a blank check sounds like a great idea too.

I've seen 4 Sbr specials pop in under 5K in the last 6 months.
They are great for some things.
Not who I would have building your engine however.
And I like SBR.
They're 35 min away and we now supply and 3rd party thru them.
Great guys but... I'm an enthusiast first, business second.

semi related, we just opened our account with magnus.
Guess whats going on MY car.


ya dig?

[Blue Ice]

hell if you got the money, i still say import a 7g VR4, and go from there.

[seth98esT]

Id rather have a 4g63/4t powered AWD 7g vs a v6tt AWD 7g.

[Blue Ice]

but has the v6tt power been truly unleashed? I'm sure there are a many splendered things that can be done with that engine.

[seth98esT]

True, but its still a 2.0L v6. Im sure you could stroke that bad boy to something a lot bigger though. Id swap the TT to a larger single turbo setup.

[DOHCstunr]

where are you going to get parts for the 6a12tt? something as simple as a head gasket, or opil pump gasket, or timing belt for it???

overnight from japan? lol

thats the major downside.

[Hodgson316]

you also have to think... if something goes wrong w/ it where are you gonna get parts from? Something as simple as an alternator will have your car out of commision for weeks just looking buying and shipping it to you.

[Blue Ice]

well i guess that's where the beauty of being the person to forge the frontier. I'm sure just like the 4g64 and 4g63 there are interchangeable parts from other dsm v6's. We don't know cause we don't have one, but what about the 3000gt parts, it's v6tt, there may be enterchangeable parts from it. what about other v6 engines mitsu made for other makes. and remember "money is no object"

[DOHCstunr]

the only thing is its a 6A** motor, not a 6g7* motor.

i'm willing to bet the differences are significant.
probably shares/interchangable parts with the 6a13, but i doubt any of the 6g7* motors.