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    nitrous?

    anybody spraying a i4 8g. was wondering how big of shot is safe.
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    it depends on ur engine.. and how well kept it has been i think..

    try a 100 shot.. and see wat happens.. take a video
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    everything i've written below is my experience use at your own risk dont come back to me if something happens lol

    i did a 100 shot for like 6months before i went turbo i was scared everytime i hit WOT lol but before that i did a 75 shot for a year and 55 before that and 35 before that..

    i used a nx wet kit intake back fires are not your friend tho lol

    100= scary buts lots of fun might want to do some tuning to be on the safe side i used a safc2
    75= fun/ok
    55=ok but not much fun
    35=dont even bother if all you have is nitrous a 35 shot should only be used to spool a big turbo
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    damn i didnt think it could hold a 100 shot.its my daily driver so i was thinking of the 55.what do you guys suggest.by the way whats your turbo setup?
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    I may do a 75 wet shot on my car, but it is a V6, as far as a streetable wet shot goes, a 75 is where its at. If I do this it will be with a Zex kit, which is one of the better kits out there for this application. Be sure to run a window switch, nitrous backfires are no joke, and downright terrifying, it is not something you want to expierence, let alone on your own car. I've seen people nearly killed by backfire's again, not a joke. A tune would be appropriate and a wideband O2 is a must.
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    I think you should just save up to do a turbo swap... IMO its not worth it to use nitrous. Generally speaking nitrous fucks up your engine relatively quickly compared to a turbo, but it also depends on how much you use your nitrous, and if you wont use it too often, than whats the point? Whereas with a turbo you get the added power at all times, not in spurts, and its a little less stressful on your engine. I know of a couple people here who did nitrous first, but didn't like it, and decided to remove the nitrous, to do the turbo swap. So if I were you, save yourself the time, effort, and money to save up or a 5spd conversion, with the turbo swap.
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    thanks for the info guys. im just rushin i guess. i got a friend of mine that always talkin shit about his ls integra.all its got is the basic bolt ons.i just wanted to shut him up :smt014
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kwikfox
    I think you should just save up to do a turbo swap... IMO its not worth it to use nitrous. Generally speaking nitrous fucks up your engine relatively quickly compared to a turbo, but it also depends on how much you use your nitrous, and if you wont use it too often, than whats the point? Whereas with a turbo you get the added power at all times, not in spurts, and its a little less stressful on your engine. I know of a couple people here who did nitrous first, but didn't like it, and decided to remove the nitrous, to do the turbo swap. So if I were you, save yourself the time, effort, and money to save up or a 5spd conversion, with the turbo swap.
    I dont know who's tuneing the stuff you've seen, but they're in the wrong buisness.

    I've seen nitrous motors last years, on a good tune, I've seen turbo motors last years on a good tune. I've seen nitrous motors last 5 seconds on a bad tune, I've seen turbo motors last 5 seconds on a bad tune.

    Notice a pattern.
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    I had a 60 shot wet on my 2.4 liter truck before i went direct port. i wouldnt try anything higher than that. You will be running rich in the #1 and #2 cylinders though, I dont know how much better nitrous gadgetry has gotten but you should be okay with a 60 shot as long as its wet. anything more and youre just playing with fire.
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    would the basic boltons be needed?my motor is stock and its got 148k miles on it.you still think its safe?if i was gonna get a kit it probably be a zex kit.
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    I was thinking nitrous back in the day too, I'm sure if you did nitrous, exhaust, header, intake, SAFC, EGT gauge for for nitrous, and maybe a Walbro 190 w/ the rewire or 255 you should be set to feel some difference and safe.

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    im not sure if you should be running nitrous on a car with 148k on the block. id make sure your head gasket and your piston rings are good before you squeeze. but if youre gonna squeeze anyways, just make sure youre running a colder plug, retard the timing a bit, not sure about the fuel pump...i was fine with the stock fuel pump on my truck but it might be different on galants and squeeze after 3k-3.5k rpms WOT. You can squeeze stock, but youll feel it better with a full exhaust, and maybe a more aggressive cam. just dont be trigger happy and youll be okay.
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    thanks guys. like i said i just wanna make them show some respect. :smt075
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    If your running a wet shot the Zex is the only way to go, other than that run an adjustable fuel pressure regulator and a walbro 255 fuel pump, and even with a stock intake and exhaust you'll be fine. A wideband O2 sensor is a good idea, for further insurance.
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    Guys, there is no need for a 255 for something like that. A Walbro 190 will support up to 400whp. With the 255, you have to use an AFPR to keep the pump from overrunning the rail.
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    would the 190 require/recommend a rewire?

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    No, but it would help.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dronesurfboards
    I had a 60 shot wet on my 2.4 liter truck before i went direct port. i wouldnt try anything higher than that. You will be running rich in the #1 and #2 cylinders though, I dont know how much better nitrous gadgetry has gotten but you should be okay with a 60 shot as long as its wet. anything more and youre just playing with fire.
    Be careful with comparing apples to oranges.

    Our fuel system feeds from the back of the motor, so the fuel goes to 4 first, not 1, so it would make absolutely no sense that 1 would be running rich, if anything it would be the complete opposite.
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    thanks for all the help guys.do you think that with an intake and a 50 shot that i could beat an ls with i/h/e?
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    I'd recomend a AFPR regardless on a wetshot. I should also take this time to mention a rpm window switch, this is another very worthwhile piece of hardware.
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