N/A Max Power

[duh2150]

na mods... intake and exhaust thread finished :)

[WarmAndSCSI]

na mods... intake and exhaust thread finished :)

I think I already covered the basic barrier of N/A mods for the 4G64. You can cam it sure for more power up top, but you're not going to be able to rev safely above 7000 IMO. Piston velocity is getting dangerous past that point without a fully forged, lightened, balanced lower end. It's really a platform made for boost.

It's not like a little Honda engine that can rev to the sky to make power...

[boostzealot]

na mods... intake and exhaust thread finished :)

oh god this guy again...J/K i know a little about NA mods just because i've been capitalizing on an NA motor build for about the past year. of course NA is fun and its awesome to say you kept up with something that came from the factory much faster but all in all the 64 just doesnt have it. even a stout NA motor like the nissan QR25DE does really rev much higher than my 3.5 but it makes very good low end for a 2.5L 4cyl motor. ive seen those guys get 210 personally to the wheels but thats with everything short of itbs and increasing the CR. and even in the midst of that motor the turbo guys are spending as much or less and are eclipsing that power by at least 100whp on low boost (8-9psi on the stock block).

[WarmAndSCSI]

na mods... intake and exhaust thread finished :)

oh god this guy again...J/K

Leave Aaron alone. I've been trying to smack some sense into him.

[duh2150]

na mods... intake and exhaust thread finished :)

oh god this guy again...J/K

Leave Aaron alone. I've been trying to smack some sense into him.

lol yup stock engines make 100-105 hp to the wheels :D thats alot of horsepower :shock: just think about doing your whole engine and gaining like 20 hp! from going N/A :shock: wowzers! :) lol

would you rather drop 5 grand going na and get like 50-100 hp more or pay 5 grand for a turbo and make double maby even 3 times that, i donno the prices but my concept is right :)

i wanna see a boosted 3.5L :)

[WarmAndSCSI]

na mods... intake and exhaust thread finished :)

oh god this guy again...J/K

Leave Aaron alone. I've been trying to smack some sense into him.

lol yup stock engines make 100-105 hp to the wheels :D thats alot of horsepower :shock: just think about doing your whole engine and gaining like 20 hp! from going N/A :shock: wowzers! :) lol

would you rather drop 5 grand going na and get like 50-100 hp more or pay 5 grand for a turbo and make double maby even 3 times that, i donno the prices but my concept is right :)

I don't think the 4G64 is THAT weak, but pretty close.

[kolio]

7th gens are similar 8th gens

once upon a time there was a 13 sec N/A 7th gen... cam,headers... you name it it had it




bottom line as it was said already it's alot cheaper to boost it and the gains are much better.

my 7th gen 129hp:146tq > 8th gen 108hp

[duh2150]

my 7th gen 129hp:146tq > 8th gen 108hp

well no shit a lighter car with more hp will win aginst a stock 8g.... 8g is heavy as a motha

108hp 8g galant > -8hp honda civic

thats what you just said in other words

[desertfrog]

OK I got it so go turbo, or don't do mods at all.... well hwo about droping another engine in, I was thinking of buying a crashed old Viper with the 7 litre 400 hp engine or the 7 litre GM engine from the Corvette ZO6... I have to money to do it I just want to know if it is possible... also I want to know if I could make it rear wheel drive, the Galant that is. You see I really like the way a Galant looks, I just want to suprise a few people at the lights thats all. And no one will suspect a Galant to have a v10 under the hood lol

[WarmAndSCSI]

OK I got it so go turbo, or don't do mods at all.... well hwo about droping another engine in, I was thinking of buying a crashed old Viper with the 7 litre 400 hp engine or the 7 litre GM engine from the Corvette ZO6... I have to money to do it I just want to know if it is possible... also I want to know if I could make it rear wheel drive, the Galant that is. You see I really like the way a Galant looks, I just want to suprise a few people at the lights thats all. And no one will suspect a Galant to have a v10 under the hood lol

Oooh, crazy engine swaps. DO IT! 8)

I'm sure you know how much fabrication work would be involved - the Galant's engine bay isn't even big enough, really...

[desertfrog]

will it also be possible to put it in the back seat area to make it mid engined... hmmm well I saw once a LS! engine from a covrette being dropped in an evo, so I know there will be enough space, but I think I will need to learn how to weld ect ect

[WarmAndSCSI]

Haha, if it's not your DD and you want to make something special out of it, I'm not holding you back. I've seen all kinds of small cars turned into mid-engined monsters. Just takes a lot of work and know-how.

[duh2150]

to bad that engine in the evo was in the front, i wouldnt do it or even try to do it, if you try it and you fuck up your totaly screwed, plus i like the sounds of the smaller engine, over untuned muscle, im a tuner guy, but i know what both can do

plus you can get over 400 hp with the 4g64 engine lol

[Fishboy55]

In before the inevitable lock.....

[beam514]

Oooh, crazy engine swaps. DO IT! 8)

http://www.autoblog.com/2007/04/10/f...sunny-side-up/

my favorite

[seth98esT]

If you want to stay N/A, LS1 swap! Easy hp.

[WarmAndSCSI]

to bad that engine in the evo was in the front, i wouldnt do it or even try to do it, if you try it and you fuck up your totaly screwed, plus i like the sounds of the smaller engine, over untuned muscle, im a tuner guy, but i know what both can do

plus you can get over 400 hp with the 4g64 engine lol

You prefer the farty exhaust note of an inline four over V8 muscle. God, Aaron, you're hopeless. :?

[duh2150]

no lol i perfur the rev's, id go muscle if i had a gto or like a 69 camero

its just somthing about seeing a 4 banger own a v8 lol

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[6G72gearhead]

If you can make the motor sustain revs of about 8k you might reach the airflow required to make 100 hp per liter, in this case 240 at the crank. A small displacement motor in a car that weighs over 2k lbs is just not worth doing. If you want an n/a car go with a V6, and even then your just trying to keep up with Evo's and STI's. Of course an 8G V6 optioned right weighs less than either of the afformentioned cars, so 300 crank hp with a lighter car is going to go faster. Then you can add some nitrous and really have fun.