Cold Air Intake??

**SPD_FRK** · 06-22-2009, 08:32 PM

I am curious how some of you even think that a CAI is going to suck in heated air from the engine bay? I mean, maybe I am not "up to par" with all the fancy Galant products out there, but from the wealth of other platforms I have worked on the CAI is something stuffed up behind the front bumper, nearly at the lowest level of the bumper for the obvious reason of not getting heat soaked. If you are running one of these systems there should be no heat soak issues at all. That is if in fact a properly engineered/designed CAI System is being used. I see a lot of folks here are running the short ram intake, which is essentially a filter just in place of the stock air box...set within the heat soaked engine bay...if you think it works great.

If you think the stock air box is "better", think again and look outside of the Galant world for a few other vehicles and look at how restrictive they too are designed. Also, speaking of "heat soaked intakes" have any of you actually looked at where the stock air box is located, and also the fact that the air inlet of the factory air box overlays this thing called a radiator...something that absorbs and cools the heated engine coolant??? Lets take the air inlet off so we have a huge hole to let more air flow in, guess what you are sucking in....hot air.

Not to be a dick people, but c'mon

blue8g · 08-22-2009, 12:52 AM

Has anyone here tried to make a CAI themselves? i think i may try it in the coming weeks.....just wondering if anyone has any recommended materials or design points......

**Reelax** · 08-22-2009, 02:30 AM

Originally Posted by blu8g

Has anyone here tried to make a CAI themselves? i think i may try it in the coming weeks.....just wondering if anyone has any recommended materials or design points......

the 7G guys do/did it by customizing/adapting intakes for other vehicles because there was not one made specifically for the 7G at the time (this may have changed)... for the 8G, it's a waste of time to custom make one since there are plenty now made for the platform. if you must make one, just copy the design of either the INJEN RD or AEM CAS as they are probably the "best" CAI made for the 8G/3G and are largely identical to each other w/ mounting points etc (INJEN has splash shield, AEM has bypass valve).

**SPD_FRK** · 08-22-2009, 09:43 AM

Originally Posted by blu8g

Has anyone here tried to make a CAI themselves? i think i may try it in the coming weeks.....just wondering if anyone has any recommended materials or design points......

I am fabricating my own intake system. Most of the time a good cold air intake should use an ABS plastic tube design to reduce the radiant heat from metal piping, but its not always available to use.

I am unfortunately going to be using metal piping for my intake, but will likely use some of the heat wrap materials around the piping to help shield the unwanted heat. This isn't a real big deal for the average person, but I am just picky about stuff like.

**keith6110** · 08-23-2009, 07:49 PM

Originally Posted by SPD_FRK

I am fabricating my own intake system. Most of the time a good cold air intake should use an ABS plastic tube design to reduce the radiant heat from metal piping, but its not always available to use.

I am unfortunately going to be using metal piping for my intake, but will likely use some of the heat wrap materials around the piping to help shield the unwanted heat. This isn't a real big deal for the average person, but I am just picky about stuff like.

ive read some of the recent posts. I bought one off ebay about 2+ years ago. Costs about $70 at the time, came with 2 aluminum pipes, 2 rubber couplers, one right angle coupler, mounting bracket and ofcourse the filter.

Heres the pros of it from my experience:
-The aluminum piping from ebay held up through salt from the winters around here. Still looks about the same as when i bought it.
-The filter is probably a higher quality than k&n air filters. Yes k&n may have a lil more air flow than this filter, but ive heard they let dirt into the motor. This filter keeps the inside of the motor and the intake tubing extra clean.
-Mounting bracket comes with the kit, its actually nothing cheap either.
-Not $200-$300

Cons:
-The rubber couplers and right angle is starting to dry rot. Little cracks and stuff have developed over time and im kind of looking for replacement ones.
-The chrome on the filter is getting pitted after 2 years time, it still looks nice but im anal about things.
-Clamps for couplers and right angle suck. Tighten them up to make you feel better and they strip out. i bought all replacement ones for $5

Other thoughts:
-Cleaned the filter about 4-5 times a year with kerosine.
-Made my cai into a short ram. Didnt use half of the stuff.
-Had to make my own bend in the bracket, probably because i didnt actually use the whole thing. You kind of have to look for a nearby spot to bolt on that bracket.

Hope my experience with ebay cai helps with your decision. Overall i'd say its worth not spending the extra for the same results. Sounds really good none the less.

**duh2150** · 08-24-2009, 02:36 PM

I think the CAI is pointless, by the time the air gets from the filter to the cylinders its already hot alot more tubing to go threw summer time comes around here in florida rain and hot as hell already, so i just made it simple and went with RAM, plus i rather run smaller wider piping and have throttle response

in my eyes

engine response > top end
Ram heat = CAI heat

**Galantfan88** · 08-24-2009, 02:59 PM

forget the CAI just get a short ram from ebay, I have one and had it for 3 years and everything looks like brand new still just changed the filter once b/c i like my shit clean but other than that everything is fine. Just think of it, one day God decides to say hey i hate all of you and imma make it rain all day untill sertain parts are flooded......CAI your fucked. Trust me I was looking into it and was so happy i didnt do that...i live in areas where there is no flood and one day i had to go threw RT.1 in woodbridge NJ and had to go trew a big ass flood that coverd half my tire. Think before you do man

**Reelax** · 08-24-2009, 03:13 PM

Originally Posted by Galantfan88

forget the CAI just get a short ram from ebay, I have one and had it for 3 years and everything looks like brand new still just changed the filter once b/c i like my shit clean but other than that everything is fine. Just think of it, one day God decides to say hey i hate all of you and imma make it rain all day untill sertain parts are flooded......CAI your fucked. Trust me I was looking into it and was so happy i didnt do that...i live in areas where there is no flood and one day i had to go threw RT.1 in woodbridge NJ and had to go trew a big ass flood that coverd half my tire. Think before you do man

AEM CAS w/ bypass valve... plus it only takes a minute to convert to short ram for inclement weather... during the summer you can add it back, u can't do that w/ a short ram kit.

**stvn_mj** · 08-24-2009, 03:40 PM

^Agree. I am actually thinkin of buyin a name brand intake because of the lack of mounting brackets on the ebay intakes unless I can find someone to make a pipe with some brackets. Plus you can get the CAI use the bypass and change it to shortram.

**4g63lover** · 08-24-2009, 04:45 PM

I have the injen SRI now but I used to have the AEM CAI.

The only difference I felt was up top. with the CAI I hit 120 on my I4 fairly good without struggle 0-60 like usual was slow but 60-110 was pretty good and 110-120 was decent.

with the SRI 0-60 was kinda more giddy but still slow as balls, 60-110 was okay, but the car seriously heaved for air to get from 110-120.

There are definite power difference but now as noticeable because most people dont go that fast on the street anyway.

**AktionCat** · 12-26-2009, 10:22 AM

I'm thinking of manuvering the pipes on the other side of the metal where the original box was at..lol stole his picture for edting...

whenever u take off the stock pieces there's a huge pointless leaf catcher? box or something on the exact opposite side of where the original box sits...now this would work for getting rid of the heat issue and provide perfectly cool out from outside..BUT i don't believe there's anything protecting it the second you hit a puddle...

**polishmafia** · 12-26-2009, 09:04 PM

What kind of puddle are you expecting to hit? You'd have to drive your car into a lake for that intake to suck in water. *confused*

**AktionCat** · 12-27-2009, 08:47 AM

putting it under where the original air box had that spare box under that metal piece..i'm pretty more then sure water couldn't hit it cuz it's blocked by the tire guard plastic and the front bumper

**03-Galant-ES** · 12-27-2009, 09:36 AM

Originally Posted by AktionCat

putting it under where the original air box had that spare box under that metal piece..i'm pretty more then sure water couldn't hit it cuz it's blocked by the tire guard plastic and the front bumper

its easy enough to go back and forth from CAI to SRI so just swap it out when you have to for weather.

**Reelax** · 12-27-2009, 08:51 PM

Originally Posted by AktionCat

I'm thinking of manuvering the pipes on the other side of the metal where the original box was at..lol stole his picture for edting...

whenever u take off the stock pieces there's a huge pointless leaf catcher? box or something on the exact opposite side of where the original box sits...now this would work for getting rid of the heat issue and provide perfectly cool out from outside..BUT i don't believe there's anything protecting it the second you hit a puddle...

Originally Posted by AktionCat

putting it under where the original air box had that spare box under that metal piece..i'm pretty more then sure water couldn't hit it cuz it's blocked by the tire guard plastic and the front bumper

wait, you came up with the idea of using piping to relocate your filter to behind the fog light in front of the driver side front wheel on your 8G? welcome to 2000; i had the first CAI on this car (INJEN 3G 1st gen discontinued). that's exactly where the cold air intake kits for our cars put the filter. maybe this picture of my car without a front bumper will help; notice the CAI puts the filter in front of the driver's side front tire under that metal you pointed out:

here is a picture from above:

**RedLine DOHC** · 12-28-2009, 12:45 AM

I'm just gonna put my cai filter behind the bumper using intercooler piping through the stock hole thats there, planing a turbo build so it makes sense to run half the pipe now and connect the intercooler in place of the filter when needed.