4g92 head swap?

**jluv97** · 02-20-2003, 11:53 AM

*drools*
Can it be done?

**Jesse** · 02-20-2003, 01:33 PM

I'll get you a napkin for the drool. No it can't be done. Block doesn't mate with the head.

**JiP** · 02-20-2003, 01:41 PM

4g92 mivec right? Dont think it will work the new model 4g's are usualy installed 180 degree from ours. IF the head even bolted up at all, your exhaust would be where your intake is now, and ur intake where your exhuast is.

But I dont know much about them to really say. If you wanna do 2g headswap theres a guy on 4g64group sellin 2ghead and intake for a mere $75 bucks and the shortblock ass. for 4g63 giving away for free, but u gota go pic it up =]

**jluv97** · 02-20-2003, 02:29 PM

I am not sure what I am looking to do. I want to be different (which is why I was thinking mivec).

On some other site one of the admin's said it was possible to swap a 4g92 into a 7g by doing a headswap. I thought it seemed a little far fetched, but hey, ya never know till you ask.

Correct me if I am wrong, but wouldn't a VR-G (6a12) swap work?

Has anyone tried this or seen one?

**JiP** · 02-20-2003, 02:38 PM

arent 6 series 6 cyl? 4g64/4g63 have the same block thats why headswaps work. Even the newer model cars where the engines are flipped around the blocks are the same, the heads were remade so that the intake stays on the side it should be on when the engines flipped. The

Mivec though will be costly swap parts arent abundently available like 4g63 parts are.

**jluv97** · 02-20-2003, 03:10 PM

I meant a full engine swap for the 6a rather than just a head swap (my fault)

**JiP** · 02-20-2003, 03:46 PM

Originally Posted by jluv97

I meant a full engine swap for the 6a rather than just a head swap (my fault)

why not just buy a 6a 8g they look much better and save u all the work.

**MidNightRacing** · 02-20-2003, 03:57 PM

I was thinking of doing a mivec swap myself. First there hard to get if your in the U.S. Second I belieive is that the tranny is located in a different way. And third I hear this swap would be extreamly hard to do you'll need alot of time and money, and good luck trying to get one in the states.

**jluv97** · 02-20-2003, 04:11 PM

Originally Posted by JiP

why not just buy a 6a 8g they look much better and save u all the work.

If they made an 8g with Mivec I would.

First there hard to get if your in the U.S. Second I belieive is that the tranny is located in a different way. And third I hear this swap would be extreamly hard to do you'll need alot of time and money, and good luck trying to get one in the states.

Shipping costs would be more than the engine. I never heard anything about the trannies (I'll check that out).

**JiP** · 02-20-2003, 04:53 PM

Originally Posted by MidnightES

I was thinking of doing a mivec swap myself. First there hard to get if your in the U.S. Second I belieive is that the tranny is located in a different way. And third I hear this swap would be extreamly hard to do you'll need alot of time and money, and good luck trying to get one in the states.

If the engine is indeed rotated 180, the tranny is different becuase it no longer has to compensate for our current engines spinning in the wrong direction, this makes everything more efficient and give ur car more power. With the engine flipped around, how do u plan to actualy bolt it in? The subframe was made for an engine facing the wrong way non of the mounts are going to come close to lining up. You would be doing major major work to do this swap. Anythings possible with the right amount of money though

**MidNightRacing** · 02-20-2003, 06:14 PM

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'>If the engine is indeed rotated 180, the tranny is different becuase it no longer has to compensate for our current engines spinning in the wrong direction, this makes everything more efficient and give ur car more power. With the engine flipped around, how do u plan to actualy bolt it in? The subframe was made for an engine facing the wrong way non of the mounts are going to come close to lining up. You would be doing major major work to do this swap. Anythings possible with the right amount of money though</div>

I know that. The most important part is the money part. Money can get you anything. So in the future im doing a 4G63 turbo swap.

was really looking foward to a mivec swap when I first heard of them but then I was told all the info on them.

:x

**JiP** · 02-20-2003, 10:34 PM

Am i the only one doing DOHC before turbo?

**seth98esT** · 02-20-2003, 10:46 PM

no, i am doing the DOHC swap and turbo also

u have a 1g head or 2g head? im hearin its too much trouble to install the 1g head so i might get a 2g head instaed even though the 1g head is better

BEAST · 02-21-2003, 12:58 PM

Why is the 1g head any better? Aren't they about the same?

**seth98esT** · 02-21-2003, 01:51 PM

1g head air flows a lot better than the 2g head...usually a ported 2g head is about the same as a stock 1g head

**JiP** · 02-21-2003, 05:05 PM

I have 1g head. I have everything except i need 3 lifters, 94 galant dohc cam gears and timing belt, and gaskets. Last three i'll get from mitsu, the lifters I'm hoping someone who pics up a head and is going to buy new parts will let mehave 3 of their lifters. I dont have the cash to upgrade everything, cams, springs, etc.. Otherwise I would go with 3g redesigned lifters.

More importantly...
Whats so much trouble about the 1g head? I havnt heard anything :

HiperSilver · 02-22-2003, 01:18 PM

the new ralliart lancer coming to the States, is 4g69 MIVEC....thats a thought, 160 hp stock

**seth98esT** · 02-23-2003, 02:38 PM

This is what I have heard:

Plan to extend 3 wires going to coil pack because of 1G location vs. 2G location.

You'll have to find a place to mount the 1G Transistor if you don't want to extend all of those wires.

There's a bracket with a bunch of small vacuum lines on the back of the 2G intake manifold/throttle body that will not mount to the 1G setup.

I fabricated a bracket to hold the 1G intake manifold, I do not know if the 1G bracket would have worked. Be sure to acquire the bracket with the manifold, I think it will work.

If I remember right, you'll have to grind a bit of the intake or engine mounting bracket to get the rear engine mounting bracket to mount up nicely.

You'll have to plug one of the large holes and one of the small holes on the 1G water neck. I used old sensors from the Galant engine I bought.

You will need the threaded nipple on the rear of the water neck to connect the water line going to the heater

and the 2g head will just bolt on, after filling those 5 holes on the block...

**JiP** · 02-23-2003, 02:48 PM

Uh Seth, galants dont have coil packs! Either way your running new wires for the coil packs and transistor so ignore that. The intake bracket im just using the 4g64 one and dril new holes and if needed (because of heigh differences) stack a bunch of washers on a bolt and screw it in, so no grinding anything should be needed.

The water housing is a tricky subject. I was mad confused when I saw what the water housing looks like because it only had 1 hole for upper radiator tube i was expecting 3. Apparently the big water pipe that runs under the exhaus mani doesnt connect to this water housing, it goes directly to the lower radiaotr hose, the upper radiator hose goes to the water housing, and on the back of the housing is a 1/2" or so fitting where you run a line from that to the heater core.

No real major hangups with the 1g head and it flows sooo much better then the 2g.

What does the 2g water housing look like? I dont know much about how coolant flows through the engine so that is the part thats confusing me the most (which is probably retardidly simple lol I can write computer programs in 4 different languages and for 6 different types of microchips, but I cant figure out water flow lol)