cylinder 4 misfire

**kolio** · 10-06-2009, 11:31 PM

i can take pics for you. yes the cap and rotor can be bought at any autoparts store and are fairly cheap.

my dist cap and spark plug wires say wich cylinder is wich.

if i remember correcty the one closest to the timing belt is number 1

**mrjaydeeone** · 10-06-2009, 11:48 PM

thanks bro. I would really appreciate that. It's supposed to rain here overnight and into tomorrow. I'm hoping it is dry when I wake up so I can look into this.

**skrap** · 10-07-2009, 08:08 AM

The fuel filter is located on the fire wall on your passenger side.. Just follow your fuel line from your fuel rain and you will run into it.. I believe the firing order starting from the timing belt is 1324 but im not sure.. It doesnt matter with that just when you take the wires off the distributer label them from top to bottom...

**Galanttuner10** · 10-07-2009, 10:25 AM

cylinder 1 is the 1 closest to the timing belt

for the wires and this is from the book

1 is closest to front of the car on distributor
2 is the back
3 is right behind 1
4 is in between 2 and 3

hope that helps

**mrjaydeeone** · 10-07-2009, 02:07 PM

thanks Chris. Well that parts atleast right LOL. Guess if it wasn't I'd have a lot more problems and woulda had them for a while now.
this is how it looks

So it looks like I am going to head to NAPA and get a rotor and distributor cap. I guess would could it hurt. If they haven't even been replaced yet

**skrap** · 10-07-2009, 03:03 PM

Well you should replace them. No it couldnt hurt.. Are you overheating?? I noticed that your upper coolant hose is swollern.. That means that your thermostat is going.. You might want to replace that as well..

**mrjaydeeone** · 10-07-2009, 04:39 PM

with some help from Denver I got the distributor cap off and the rotor and replaced those. Also reset the battery too. The terminals on the old cap didn't look too bad, the rotor on the other hand looked kinda worn. The car is idling normal and I took it up and down my street a few times and seems to be issue free right not. Waiting for the rush hour to end so I can take it for a ride and make sure. Thanks everyone for your help.

Originally Posted by skrap

Well you should replace them. No it couldnt hurt.. Are you overheating?? I noticed that your upper coolant hose is swollern.. That means that your thermostat is going.. You might want to replace that as well..

nope not overheating and haven't since I've owned her. I will look into replacing the thermostat as well in the near future.

**QnzMostWanted** · 10-07-2009, 04:45 PM

hope everything works out for you Jay

**Galanttuner10** · 10-07-2009, 05:04 PM

well im glad that part was right.. hope its all good to go now Jay

**mrjaydeeone** · 10-08-2009, 01:12 PM

okay so the problem isn't fixed. And I can't seem to make it happen when I want it to. Seems like in 2nd somewhere around 30mph occassionally the car feels like it is doing to cut out. But then manages to keep on going, it backfired once today while I had it out. Not sure whatelse I need to look at.

**skrap** · 10-08-2009, 02:09 PM

did you replace the fuel filter????

**kolio** · 10-08-2009, 02:14 PM

what condition is the oxygen sensor in? you can just unscrew it and see if it looks jacked up but that aint no cheap fix. its like 80 bux.

so you said it's not throwing any codes. this is weird then

**skrap** · 10-09-2009, 06:39 AM

I think it might be somthing with the fuel... Pull your fuel filter off.. Then blow into the bottom of your filter... It should be very easy to blow air through it.. If there is resistance then replace the fuel filter...

**mrjaydeeone** · 10-09-2009, 07:25 PM

Originally Posted by skrap

did you replace the fuel filter????

Originally Posted by kolio

what condition is the oxygen sensor in? you can just unscrew it and see if it looks jacked up but that aint no cheap fix. its like 80 bux.

so you said it's not throwing any codes. this is weird then

Originally Posted by skrap

I think it might be somthing with the fuel... Pull your fuel filter off.. Then blow into the bottom of your filter... It should be very easy to blow air through it.. If there is resistance then replace the fuel filter...

haven't checked with the fuel filter. Not sure if I want to mess with that on my own. I do have another one in the trunk though so if it needs to be replaced I have the part on hand. Nope it isn't throwing any codes, but I have only gone lets say a little over 100 miles since I cleared the code out. It normally takes what a few hundred miles to come back, if any since resetting battery. Not sure about the condition of the 02 sensor. I don't know if this helps at all, it seems to only start getting boggy like when I full accelerate, and that seems to be when the car will back fire as well. Not really sure what is the issue. But I am taking it to Roman's mechanic on Monday AM to see what he has to say about it.

**Galanttuner10** · 10-09-2009, 09:47 PM

when my O2 sensor went it didnt throw a code and felt boggy as well.. might be a pump or clogged filter too

when the O2 sensor dies it just sends the ECU a lean signal so it dumps full at open throttle as a saftey to not blow it up

**Racer_S** · 10-13-2009, 10:57 AM

hey guys, i just started having the same problem with my 95 galant s about 3 days ago, the cylinder next to the distributor isnt firing after a cold start, although gas is getting in there and when it does start firing (usually after 10 minutes after a cold start) there is lots of blue smoke from unburnt gas im guessing (smells like gas). i replaced the fuel filter less thant 2 months ago and i replaced the cap and rotor over the summer.

i got a new set of plugs and wires yesterday but it didnt help... there isnt much oil in the spark plug tube and I'm not sure what else to check... shes got about 130K now and ive changed the oil regularly

I have a compression tester which I'm about to use but I'm really afraid of a broken valve or ring cause then this car is RIP for me.

will let you know the results later

UPDATE:

I've found the problem, one of the wires (a green one) going to my distributer was grounding out..a little bit of electrical tape fixed the problem. heres the pictures...

**mrjaydeeone** · 10-14-2009, 06:45 PM

Racer_S glad you got your problem resolved.
but that wasn't the issue with mine. you were right MKO. Distributor needed to be replaced. Mechanic pulled it out and there was oil in it. Replaced the distributor and backfire is gone and car is behaving

**kolio** · 10-14-2009, 08:17 PM

Originally Posted by mrjaydeeone

Racer_S glad you got your problem resolved.
but that wasn't the issue with mine. you were right MKO. Distributor needed to be replaced. Mechanic pulled it out and there was oil in it. Replaced the distributor and backfire is gone and car is behaving

glad you got it fixed! so it's back to being faster than the 8G