Turbocharger the Galants!

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I'm sorry but that's a GREAT way to blow up a motor.

with any type of boosted set-up you WANT adequate fuel to keep the car from running lean. Even stock 2G's with a T25 have atleast 440cc injectors from the factory. Injectors arent that hard to replace. I have enough experience with the 4G63 to know that you WILL need bigger injectors to run a boosted set-up on the 4G64 safely. It is not a Honda where you can run a T25 on a D-series with the RSX Type-S 360cc injectors.

He does need fuel management as well. The stock ECU isn't ready to handle that much air with the stock fuel parameters. I'm not very good at tuning but I've seen many motors blow to pieces because people skimped out on the little details like fuel system and fuel management.

You can't just install a turbo set-up without the proper supporting mods and think it will be okay. The stock injectors are 275cc for the I4 IIRC. That is NOT enough for any kind of boosted set-up.

You can probably get away with upgrading the pump and installing an AFPR and use the stock injectors but I guarantee that motor will blow itself up after a few of passes at full boost.

On a side note, our cars run lean up top NA just imagine how lean it'll be close to red line when the volume of air being pushed into the motor is twice as much as stock with a turbo.

Ok, you have very good points but no where did i say just bolt on the turbo and thats it. I boost all kinds of cars for all type of budgets. The reality of building any modified car is that it will blow up eventually. Your talking about a car that is NA and has G-D knows how many miles on it. 275cc is good enough to boost 5-8 lbs. I boosted a 8g for a guy that said he had everything. He came to me with a turbo, intercooler, and piping. now after talking to him and letting him know it was a lot more than just that. He had no real money. I still boosted the car for him. 5lbs max completely stock except fuel pump, and rising fuel regulator. No computer work at all. car ran just like that for two years then he sold it. He broke the tranny and that was it. car had 85,000 miles when i put the turbo on. Now I just finish building a 1995 BMW 325 4dr with 156,000 miles on it. 12lbs of boost no computer work just fuel pump regulator and 29lb injectors. car runs great. (No two cars are alike) I turbocharged a 1991 240 completely stock for a guy, ECU chip upgraded MAF bigger injectors, fuel pump and regulator. wastgate spring 7lbs. He made it half way down the block about 2lbs of boost and blew the motor.

[4g63lover]

Ok, you have very good points but no where did i say just bolt on the turbo and thats it. I boost all kinds of cars for all type of budgets. The reality of building any modified car is that it will blow up eventually. Your talking about a car that is NA and has G-D knows how many miles on it. 275cc is good enough to boost 5-8 lbs. I boosted a 8g for a guy that said he had everything. He came to me with a turbo, intercooler, and piping. now after talking to him and letting him know it was a lot more than just that. He had no real money. I still boosted the car for him. 5lbs max completely stock except fuel pump, and rising fuel regulator. No computer work at all. car ran just like that for two years then he sold it. He broke the tranny and that was it. car had 85,000 miles when i put the turbo on. Now I just finish building a 1995 BMW 325 4dr with 156,000 miles on it. 12lbs of boost no computer work just fuel pump regulator and 29lb injectors. car runs great. (No two cars are alike) I turbocharged a 1991 240 completely stock for a guy, ECU chip upgraded MAF bigger injectors, fuel pump and regulator. wastgate spring 7lbs. He made it half way down the block about 2lbs of boost and blew the motor.

Not because it's been done, doesn't mean it was the right way to do it.

I still can't believe that with no tuning software that the trans went before the motor.

If you say you've done it then he can choose whether to take your word for it or everyone elses word who has ALOT of experience with boosted 8G's.

[The_fresh_Galant]

Hello, To answer most of your questions, adding a turbo charging to a car is not as easy as say adding a injen intake. First off if all you want is a little gain like 70-100 hp you just need about 5-6 pounds on the stock motor with the right turbo. There is no need for modifying the ecu as it will handle the boost fine. yes, you will need to add a little more fuel but not by changing your injectors. Changing injectors on a car is not as simple as everyone makes it sound. your car does not even use 50% of the injector duty cycle. I have a Performance shop and I deal with this type of stuff on a daily basis. I will help as much as I can on here, but if you are in the NEW YORK area you need to stop by.

ok people say you need em, people say you dont....So i will change them to be safe...but wat if i leave the turbo like barely on (3-5 psi) until i can get a set of injectors?

[qnz]

you can run 30 psi and keep the stock injectors. how? just never boost.

440s arent even enough for a 16g. IIRC, looking at Johnathansgalants logs, he hits over 90% IDC when at WOT. Most people wont be at WOT for longer than a few seconds anyway, but the problem is when you need it, and its not there, thats when it goes boom.

[The_fresh_Galant]

oh an where can i get a piggyback...

[The_fresh_Galant]

Hello, To answer most of your questions, adding a turbo charging to a car is not as easy as say adding a injen intake. First off if all you want is a little gain like 70-100 hp you just need about 5-6 pounds on the stock motor with the right turbo. There is no need for modifying the ecu as it will handle the boost fine. yes, you will need to add a little more fuel but not by changing your injectors. Changing injectors on a car is not as simple as everyone makes it sound. your car does not even use 50% of the injector duty cycle. I have a Performance shop and I deal with this type of stuff on a daily basis. I will help as much as I can on here, but if you are in the NEW YORK area you need to stop by.

so jus run stock for a ll bit..but if not the injectors then what do i do?

[Ivory8g]

how in the world can anyone think playing around with fuel delivery is ok? you are putting in more air you want to add more fuel and tune it. cars are over engineered for a reason. its always best to err on the side of caution. bottom line. dont you think its best to have too much than too little? say you skimp out on injectors and a fuel management and you ping the shit out of your engine and it eats it. then what? you dont have the money to drop another engine in, or fix yours cause thats why you skimped on the fuel in the first place. homeboy over the internet wont be held responsible....dead car....and now you have to pay for a repair instead of upgrades. think about that. ebay is where i got my piggyback

[The_fresh_Galant]

This has got to be the best shit ive heard lol..people need to be straight up. but a piggyback is like how much on ebay...$50? and is it a programmable little thing?

[Galantfan88]

This has got to be the best shit ive heard lol..people need to be straight up. but a piggyback is like how much on ebay...$50? and is it a programmable little thing?

No.lol they do not go for $50.00 more like between $300.00 or more but it all depends where you can find one for even cheaper.

[qnz]

how in the world can anyone think playing around with fuel delivery is ok? you are putting in more air you want to add more fuel and tune it. cars are over engineered for a reason. its always best to err on the side of caution. bottom line. dont you think its best to have too much than too little? say you skimp out on injectors and a fuel management and you ping the shit out of your engine and it eats it. then what? you dont have the money to drop another engine in, or fix yours cause thats why you skimped on the fuel in the first place. homeboy over the internet wont be held responsible....dead car....and now you have to pay for a repair instead of upgrades. think about that. ebay is where i got my piggyback

quoted for truth

a Evo 8 ecu is cheaper, and has more capabilities than a piggyback. I would say all big name shops will tell you to go standalone or flash the stock ECU

[4g63lover]

how in the world can anyone think playing around with fuel delivery is ok? you are putting in more air you want to add more fuel and tune it. cars are over engineered for a reason. its always best to err on the side of caution. bottom line. dont you think its best to have too much than too little? say you skimp out on injectors and a fuel management and you ping the shit out of your engine and it eats it. then what? you dont have the money to drop another engine in, or fix yours cause thats why you skimped on the fuel in the first place. homeboy over the internet wont be held responsible....dead car....and now you have to pay for a repair instead of upgrades. think about that. ebay is where i got my piggyback

OMG thanks Marc. Thats what i've been trying to say.

I gotta get this thing boosted, I think when people see my close to stock car when I talk they automatically think I'm spitting BS out of my mouth. I pretty much said what you just said a few posts up

[Ivory8g]

yep! Do it!!! I totally just re-stated i a little more harsh so there is no question, and its coming from someone thats boosted as well. I know you know the deal but people will just think he's not boosted just like you said. i got you bro!

[RedLine DOHC]

Note: the WRX injectors are plug and play.

The DSM injectors need the resistor to work

Not sure what kind of work is needed or what kinda wiring is needed for the EVO injectors.

Essentially, as long as your fuel system is adequate for the set-up you are good to go. The rest is just making sure all the lines are tight and wont leak. All the couplers for the I/C piping are held on to the piping properly and everything is torqued down to spec.

Another Note: If you use a DSM manifold and turbo you wont have an issue of running into the starter. Any EVO set-up you will need manifold spacers and longer exhaust manifold studs.

Is this true for the 7G as well? the wrx injectors that is

[traffik]

so jus run stock for a ll bit..but if not the injectors then what do i do?

Yes you can use the stock injectors with a 255 real walbro fuel pump and a aeromotive 1:1 rising rate fuel pressure regulator, and fuel rail. (If you want to spend the money on injectors thats your up to you.) But then you will need a computer to control the bigger injectors cuz the stock ECU will not be able to control the bigger injectors. Make sure your spring for the wastegate is rated @ 5lbs and you will be fine. You will need a wideband so you can know if you are dumping to much gas or not getting enough.

[The_fresh_Galant]

So will this go rite in........255LPH FUEL PUMP Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution Evo 8 ?

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So will this go rite in........255LPH FUEL PUMP Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution Evo 8 ?

yes, it will fit you just have to modify a little. Nothing major.

[The_fresh_Galant]

well i found that same pump that plugs rite in. but thnx.

[Scout4g64t]

No offense to anyone But WTF.. My man trying to boost... If you dont have the money yet to buy injectors.. "CANCEL THE PROJECT" Boosting isn't cheap and easy if it was everyone on here would be boosted. Im running 550cc RC injectors w my setup and if im gonna make more power You damn better believe that I rather have bigger to cover my ass than leave it up to chance.. And After all of this my friend you can get a piggyback new ecu whatever.. BE PREPARED TO DUMP SOME NICE MONEY ON TUNING!! If you're looking for shortcuts... you should consider boosting a honda.. GOOD LUCK I dont mean to be an asshole but I need to be real with you so you dont blow your car and money.

FROM A BOOSTED GUY not a "Well.. I heard guy"

[The_fresh_Galant]

I jus read'n over some of this again i gotta guy gonna tune my stuff for 250 but im holdn off on this rite now ima slowly peice everything i gotta have together....if anyone has some good places to look put on here...thx

[duh2150]

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