Building a completely new 4g64

[wrakd]

Hi there some of you may have seen my previous post about my blown engine but I guess it might be helpful to someone if I make a post with details on my new build. I will try to keep it updated. Any advice is more than welcome...

HERE I START PULLING THE MOTOR.. it looks fine on the outside...timing didnt jump, actually it looked like nothing was wrong, even installed a pretty nice fuel pressure gauge cuz at first i tought my fuel pump just went out, but pressure was all fine





...and here it is out



BUT ON THE INSIDE.....all f****d up



(spark plugs #3 on the right)all eaten.. It was after i checked the obvious and saw the spark plug #3 was beat when I decided to pull the whole motor out, it was obviously internal damage...

AS YOU CAN SEE THERE IS NO ONE IN #3....




....OH NO HE WAS HIDING IN THE OIL PAN






WE ALL DESERVE A BREAK HEH...


Alright starting to build...

...with the thing I definitely do not need rnow lol



It's crazy all the stuff for header wrap was over $100

I don't know if I should use this solid aluminum pulley because people say the oem pulley has rubber in it to absorb vibration goin to the crank and a solid one might cause crank damage plus I want my AC blasting and power steering workin all fine in traffic...this one shows you pretty well:(https://www.thegalantcenter.org/show...erdrive+pulley)....
(there is a few threads on here about that but more feedback is welcome)




Something even crazier.....a new oem crank pulley just like the one on the right from mitsu..$300 !!!

(the pulley on the left $30 from ebay)

I went to mitsu to pick up a few new parts i needed...pricey

like this thing is a hydraulic timing belt tensioner it was freakin $150!
I also got a starter plate and thermostat housing


AS FOR THAT UNDERDRIVE PULLEY...DEF NOT USING IT. I might actually look into getting my internals balanced as beam514 suggested but still not using it.that pulley is not worth the 10-15 extra hp i can go without i wanna go turbo anyway i dont need some sketchy pulley for power and fucking with my accessories. thats not something you really need on a street car for hp... so im goin with the stock one....but i also figured its a great ashtray after I pluggedup all the holes with foil


ordered a new cylynder head, since mine is not rebuildable




Cleaned and painted throttle body aluminum



Finally stripped the wrincle red paint off of the intake manifold





Painted the upper right motor mount aluminum as well



got a pretty nice balance shaft eliminator kit



Painted all kinds of brackets and mounts in low gloss black







now Im saving up for the new block and def getting custom dished pistons with valve relief slits and lower compression.. goin turbo after I get the stick shift in there...

[Galante]

might as well use it.. Keep us updated w/ the build.

[galant3jl12's]

What brand of header is that?

[RAZ_76]

What kind of weed are you smoking..lol. You killed your engine so bad that it bleed...it's red, get it???lmao.

[Joshua42007]

WE ALL DESERVE A BREAK HEH


LMAO, nice. Yes, everyone deserves a break here and there. Dont wire everything all backwards now haha

[OMEGA PHX]

Keep us posted on the build. GL

[4g63lover]

id the IM painted red?

And damn, you made your self work hard, why did you not take the trans out with the motor?

[RAZ_76]

Seeing that you smoke, my guess is that this project will take while and lots of munchies later.

[bsphillips]

Where can you get the motor mounts like that?

[es_fact]

lol I hate smoking pipes lol.

[wrakd]

motor mounts and header are from ebay...but I bought header wrap and high heat paint from pepboys and hooked it up.....Im gonna be doin a lot of shit now that the motor is out i wil post pics...


and i didnt pull the tranny so it doesnt tease, If i pull it its not goin back in unless its a 5spd stick. I dont think its harder to pull the motor itself only thing i had an issue with is clearance with balancer pulley on the right side but took it off and it popped right out..... i got a hoist for freakin truck engines haha

[beam514]

For the crank pulley, I would say only use it if you get the internals balanced at a shop.

[wrakd]

For the crank pulley, I would say only use it if you get the internals balanced at a shop.

what does it really mean to get it balanced...i mean what does the shop really do to it to balance it?

[4g63lover]

what does it really mean to get it balanced...i mean what does the shop really do to it to balance it?

the crank has weight on them, what a machine shop will do is take metal out of those weights until the whole crankshaft assembly is balanced all across the shaft.

[wrakd]

the crank has weight on them, what a machine shop will do is take metal out of those weights until the whole crankshaft assembly is balanced all across the shaft.

so is getting your internals balanced an extra step to rebuilding the block I mean dont they do that when they rebuild a motor anyway?

[4g63lover]

Personally we only get the crank balanced in the motors we've built when we use a lightened crank pulley and use forged rods and pistons. The crank pulley/harmonic balancer aids in externally balancing the crank.

[Trevs56]

Where can you get the motor mounts like that?

It looks like he has prothane inserts. not too hard to come by. theres also mounts and inserts in different colours from deyeme racing. u order them for a stratus/sebring/00-05 eclipse.

http://deyemeracing.com/

[wrakd]

I was lookin up some cometic head gaskets online and they only have ones for the 7g its bogus but whatev i found this website which can make you a custom copper head gasket as thick as you want it and everything http://www.headgasket.com/gaskets.html I dont know how thick i should go 0.70 sounds good might lower the comression for when I turbo. I was wondering if any of you know a good ass gasket that might help with that and shit If anyone knows a set of arp head studs that would fit that would be awesome

[Shadow19]

How much boost do you plan on running? Do they make arp head studs for the 8g? If they make arp head studs and you dont plan on running over like 20-22 psi im more than sure a OEM composite head gasket with some copper seal and arp head studs would hold up fine as long as you deck the head and block. Cometic is over-rated and over priced. Fuck those gaskets. We went through 2 of them in my gf's 2g and we had arp head studs along with a fresh decked head.

[bwracing00]

well the 8g is the exact same as the 00-05 eclipse and i just got done doing a complete 4g64 build on my car. arp head studs as well. dont all the evo's run a stock commetic gasket?

plus lik you asked it depends how much boost he is running? if he keeps it a simple 15psi or less deending what kind of rebuild he is doing then he should be fine with a great tune.