The Galant Center - Powered by vBulletin

Thread: Running on 3 cylinders

Showing results 1 to 17 of 17
  1. #1
    Mike22487
    Guest

    Running on 3 cylinders

    On my g/f car, I believe its running on 3 cylinders, 2000 gallant 2.4l, I have unplugged the #1injector while its running and the engine barely sounds different
    .
    Some history on the car, it has 279,xxx miles, it burns a quart of oil in less than 700 miles, we put 80,000 miles a year on the car, because of it burning oil the o2 sensor bank 1 sensor 1 constantly send a check engine light, 2-3 times a year it throws a random multiple cylinder miss fire code, I change the coils out (i have 3 sets from the junk yard I keep changing out) and it works for a few more months, it eats spark plugs in 2 months (ngk platinum), the timing belt and balance shaft belt was replaced 2 years ago, the rear motor mount gets replaced every year (it disintegrates), the motor shakes the whole car at idle speed
    .
    Here's a picture of the spark plugs at a month and a half

    .
    Here's a video at idle in park

    .
    http://static.photobucket.com/player...5-09-51-48.mp4
    Last edited by Mike22487; 03-29-2011 at 06:53 PM Reason: Video not working

  2. #2
    Booty Luva wetamup2k3g's Avatar
    Join Date
    12-13-2010
    Location
    Brooklyn, Maryland
    Posts
    4,643
    Welcome, that's alot of miles you got there!
    One thing, though. I heard your video and I hear what sounds like compression leaking (not surprising given your mileage). I heard that same idle whistle right before my spark plug popped out ( I was rushing one day and didn't tighten the plug down, I guess, I'm still not sure how that happened, but I digress).
    Now, i'm not there, so it could be anything, pulley bearing, belts, but that sound is familiar to me. Here's a description of what may be going on with your plugs, BTW

    Last edited by wetamup2k3g; 03-29-2011 at 07:13 PM

    -Greg

    "I smashed up the grey one, bought me a red;
    Every time we hit the parking lot we turn heads!"
    -Pimp C, "International Players Anthem"

  3. #3
    Mike22487
    Guest
    I listened around with a mechanics stethescope and I hear all of the injectors pulsing, it sounds like that hissing sound is coming from under the headers on cylinder one (head gasket?), ill have to get a mirror to check it out, while I had it idleing in the driveway the other day a black liquid was coming out the tail pipe, it didn't smell like gas though, and I dought it was condensation because the car just drove 100 miles like this home from where she was,
    .
    should I just take the car to a garage and let them figure it out?

    I've been working 7 days a week and dont think I have time to mess around with this car and sleep, I have done engine swaps and numerous fixes on my 3 nissans I have,

  4. #4
    Senior TGC Member DTP's Avatar
    Join Date
    06-16-2010
    Location
    Fort Mill, SC
    Posts
    2,282
    Definitely do a compression and leak down test. You gotta figure that hiss out. Has it overheated?

    The seals could be killing your spark plugs, but they are not leaking enough oil to completely cover them. If you catch my drift.


    Sent from my iPod touch using Tapatalk
    -Andrew

  5. #5
    Mike22487
    Guest
    The car hasn't overheated, when you hit the gas pedal after sitting at a stop light white smoke comes out the tailpipe, I know it needs valve guide seals from that

  6. #6
    Mike22487
    Guest
    Ok, compression test done,
    cylinder
    #1 dry 180 wet 211
    #2 dry 190 wet 214
    #3 dry 152 wet 214 (piston rings?)
    #4 dry 0 wet 0 (dont understand)
    .
    I couldn't find a leak down tester to borrow or rent, I'll have to buy one off of amazon or go to harbor freight
    .
    whats my next step with this car? Take it to a garage, or get a replacement engine somewhere?
    .
    Can anyone recommend a place to buy a low mileage engine from in south florida?

  7. #7
    TGC Regular
    Join Date
    04-19-2008
    Location
    Texas, Houston
    Posts
    450
    Just repace all your seals and gaskets. Also make sure your valve cover is in good condition when you take it off to change.


    2002 ES i4 SOHC Mitsubishi Galant

  8. #8
    Mike22487
    Guest
    With 276,xxx miles on the engine I think it will be a little more involved than just gaskets and seals, how much would that typically cost for a shop to replace them all?

  9. #9
    TGC Regular
    Join Date
    04-19-2008
    Location
    Texas, Houston
    Posts
    450
    Quite honestly, with 276k miles, I would just rebuild the entire motor or have it swapped. For a local shop in houston it should runs about 200$-350$ including OEM parts.


    2002 ES i4 SOHC Mitsubishi Galant

  10. #10
    Mike22487
    Guest
    Quote Originally Posted by ADExternal View Post
    Quite honestly, with 276k miles, I would just rebuild the entire motor or have it swapped. For a local shop in houston it should runs about 200$-350$ including OEM parts.
    ^ for a rebuild or swap?

  11. #11
    Mike22487
    Guest
    I got a quote from one garage they said for a used engine and install it would be $2800 with no warranty on the engine, another garage I've been to before gave me a quote without finding an engine first and said in the range of $1800 with a warranty on everything, and another garage is supposed to call me back today

  12. #12
    TGC Regular
    Join Date
    04-19-2008
    Location
    Texas, Houston
    Posts
    450
    How much are you wanting to spend on this car? of course rebuilding a car is good only for the motor and watever you replaced. its alot cheaper then a new car but a new car has everything.... well new.


    2002 ES i4 SOHC Mitsubishi Galant

  13. #13
    Senior TGC Member DTP's Avatar
    Join Date
    06-16-2010
    Location
    Fort Mill, SC
    Posts
    2,282
    $1800 is about right. See how much it would run to rebuild it.


    Sent from my iPod touch using Tapatalk
    -Andrew

  14. #14
    Mike22487
    Guest
    The other garage called me back, he said it would be $1800 for labor and a 2004- 50,000 mile engine from a crashed car (rear ended) (compression tested and leak down tested) with a 6 month warranty on the engine, he said it would be over $2000 + to rebuild it and with that many miles on that engine who knows what it looks like inside,
    .
    my g/f puts 80,000 miles a year on that car, all that it needs now is shocks, a rear motor mount, tint re-done, and tires
    .
    Wheres a good place to get shocks at? Advance auto wants $400 for shocks, what brand is good, probably just stock replacements, she drives all highway miles

  15. #15
    Mike22487
    Guest
    Engine has been replaced, it cost $1800 to replace it with a 54k mile engine, its not getting good gas mileage

    There are 2 codes that come up, p0170 fuel trim malfunction (bank 1) (p0170 (bank 2) came up once but hasn't come back after 100 miles), and p0400 egr flow malfunction (possibly leaking hose I found) I will fix that this week

    Its using a lot of gas probably from the p0170 code, the old engine kept tripping the front o2 sensor from the oil burning but the sensor was cleaned, what do you think it could be?

  16. #16
    TGC Lifetime Patron finald8ta's Avatar
    Join Date
    02-17-2011
    Location
    i live in sunny florida
    Posts
    1,240
    i just got this po170 code today, butt my car was missing alot like dead plugs, so i ended up replacing them check ur plugsand replace that o2 sensor with a new one

  17. #17
    Mike22487
    Guest
    Plugs are new, it isn't missing at all, o2 I will switch to another one I have

Posting Rules

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •