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    Updating a bit, I haven't really been able to get as much done as would I like to but its slowly moving along.

    A couple of weeks ago is when I actually got started, I lowered the engine and rolled it out from under the car. Made things a lil easier but not by much, I could've swapped transmissions with the motor in the car but its always such a pain in the ass that I always say next time Im gonna pull the engine so I did.

    20160704_182652 by Bryant Ospina, on Flickr

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    I didn't realize the exhaust a hangers were attached to the subframe so Im gonna have come up with something different.

    20160711_212317 by Bryant Ospina, on Flickr

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    I started to fit the Evo rack on the new sub frame and found a few issues.

    20160712_090338 by Bryant Ospina, on Flickr

    20160712_090327 by Bryant Ospina, on Flickr

    One was one of the mounting holes for the rack is offset by 1/4". The other is fine so Ill just use a smaller diameter bolt for the offset hole and I should be fine.

    20160711_210657 by Bryant Ospina, on Flickr

    Another problem was fitting the clamp for the sway bar. Cause of the design of the subframe it doesn't allow for a two bolt hole clamp which would just sandwich the bar and bushing to the subframe. This one only allows for a single loop that they had cut and welded together in order to get the correct shape.

    20160711_210713 by Bryant Ospina, on Flickr

    Since its been welded together spreading it to fit over the end of the sway bar seems impossible. Im worried Im gonna break the weld so im gonna grind the ends of the sway bar and then it should fit over the end. Also the bushing doesn't exactly fit in there with a bit of persuasion so I hope that doesn't present a problem while trying to slide the clamp over the sway bars bends.

    20160711_210741_001 by Bryant Ospina, on Flickr

    On another note I decided go to the last track event in June even though I don't have a car, I figure I would go and spectate since it was only like 60 miles from me. I brought my kids with me but It turned out to be so frickin hot that we didn't stay very long but I did catch some flicks of some of my favorite cars.

    Ferrari Challenge

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    Supercharged NSX

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    My boys, 3 and 4 yr olds

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    My oldest in front of a friends 240, he tends to talk a lot and will go on and on and this picture captures it lol.

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    Great. Day by day bro. Cheetoos always a win for kids. Hahahaha.

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    Yea cheetos and cheese puffs are the best.

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    R u using lower evo timing belt cover? Also are you using the sonata or evo plate to hold that cam cover in place??



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    All evo

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    The Money Pit!

    The sway bar mounts are easy. No grinding of the bar, just spread them a little. Also put the mounts and bushings in the middle of the bar, and the tap them out into position with a hammer. It's a tight fit and God forbid if you have to take them out again ( I did lol) but it works! My rack mounts were dead on that's weird. Do you have balance shafts? If not double nut and red lock tight on subframe studs.


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    Thanks for the tips, Ill try that but Im just worried the the material around the welds will weaken and snap especialy if I did to change sway bars. The fabricator actually left out a weld on the inside of the strap on one side. That one Im really worried it will weaken if I spread it. Ill probaly run another bead for it, and by the way thanks for those pics again they really helped out.

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    The Money Pit!

    I see you pmd me. My inbox was full. It's empty now. I replied. You're inbox is full lol


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    Lol no doubt i just wanted to ask you if you fitted any type of bushings in between the chassis and the subframe mounts.

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    No I did not. Seriously thought about it, but I need the to keep the tail section of the tcase from knocking so I wanted no flex at all


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    I see, but it might of helped in a way. With maybe a 1/4 - 1/2 poly bushing it would space it down and reduce any chance of hitting. I dunno for sure but I have some bushing that I might try to fit on.

    That must be one hell of a vibration though.

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    I agree with using some type of bushing if possible. It doesn't need to be much, but just enough to dampen a little vibration while allowing very little movement. What I would have in mind is something similar to the cross-member bushings that are part of the engine mount inserts. But of course, it all comes down to how much space you have to work with and unfortunately I don't know what kind of space you guys have with the 4cyl as I've only dealt with V6 AWD cars on this platform.
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    Quote Originally Posted by xd_01 View Post
    I see, but it might of helped in a way. With maybe a 1/4 - 1/2 poly bushing it would space it down and reduce any chance of hitting. I dunno for sure but I have some bushing that I might try to fit on.

    That must be one hell of a vibration though.
    It's gonna change your mounting point of the rear engine mount


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    I didnt think of that

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    One of the things I wanted to do was to weigh everything I removed from the car and all the new parts to go in to have make a comparison and also just cause I love to collect data plus it comes in real handy when corner balancing.

    20160727_142246 by Bryant Ospina, on Flickr

    Yes, Im too lazy to type it in. So basically the new trans set up by itself added 66 lbs, but with the new chromoly subframe and aluminum LCA's it dropped 20 lbs, Evo axles dropped by 8 lbs and Im sure I could on and on but not many will care lol but that's ok cause I love data and comparisons. In the end the new setup weighs 344 lbs and the old weighs in at 315 lbs so it gained 29 lbs overall so even though it lost weight in some areas in gained in others not to mention what the future splitter project will add. I guess it time to look into getting a carbon fiber hood.

    Here some pics of the process in the 100 degree like weather.

    20160720_165112 by Bryant Ospina, on Flickr

    Anyone need a core??

    20160720_170214 by Bryant Ospina, on Flickr

    Or a clutch and flywheel?

    20160720_170708 by Bryant Ospina, on Flickr

    Or axles with intermediate upgrade?

    20160720_175919 by Bryant Ospina, on Flickr

    New subframe and Evo rack.

    20160720_174852 by Bryant Ospina, on Flickr

    This past weekend I was able to spend a lot of time on it, my wife took the kids to New York to visit family and I stayed behind. It was great having the house to myself, I don't think I had that much time to my self since the kids where born lol. Anyway I started on the sway bar, damn that thing was such pain. I know Jared gave me some tips but I still couldn't get it to work, I hate forcing things cause Im always worried it will break or if it has to come out its another nightmare.

    In the end I shaved down the end of the sway bar to slip on the metal strap. I also fought with bushings and I don't know how Jared hammered those in but it was impossible for me so I shaved like an 1/8" off the back, cut the bushing in half and shaved off the retaining lip off one side. After that it slipped into the strap fine, sorry no pics of the struggle, just the actual strap over the end of the bar.

    20160723_165831_001 by Bryant Ospina, on Flickr

    Next issue after I tried to install the subframe was part of the fire wall is hitting the sway bar and wont let the entire setup to raise into place. Hammer time!

    20160725_141751 by Bryant Ospina, on Flickr

    So heres another issue I have with this whole setup. This is a pic of the rear mount of the LCA, the bolt drops in vertically but my issue is theres no room to drop in the bolt from the topside down while the subframe is in place. This would be my prefence for a couple of reasons, one so that if the nut vibrated off the bolt would still be there and nothing catastrophic would happen while on track just a lot of vibration. Second reason is when I change ball joints I wont have to remove the whole subframe.

    I understand that designing a subframe isn't easy and giving up some practicality is required but still it kinda sucks lol

    20160725_200720 by Bryant Ospina, on Flickr

    On to the next part since Im to lazy to go forward with the subframe install, the clutch. Last night the kids were in the garage with me, here they are taking the cover plate off a $1300 clutch.

    20160726_201506 by Bryant Ospina, on Flickr

    20160726_203345 by Bryant Ospina, on Flickr

    I know Im crazy but deep down inside I hope my kids get into motorsports as a career, I know Ill never push them into it like some parents do with other sports instead I just hope they take to it cause they like that's why I just let them go at it when there interested in what Im doing.

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    This twin disc looks intimidating to install, even the instructions are in Japanese. There translated in English right below after each Japanese sentence, makes it confusing.

    20160726_203235 by Bryant Ospina, on Flickr

    And here Iam at a stand still again, the 8g flywheel bolts have a different shank then what the Evo flywheel require. It needs more threads and less blank part of the shank other wise the bolts will be tight but the flywheel will be flopping around. Order some ARP's from Extreme PSI last night, should be here tomorrow.

    20160726_204930 by Bryant Ospina, on Flickr

  16. #636
    Looks good dude! A couple of suggestions. The hard line p/s, make it flexible. I changed mine after two years, I had chafing into the tcase from the steel line. For the lca bolt, safety wire works for piece of mind. Or you can get the tab lock washers and drill a hold to fold one flap into the subframe, and another over the nut.


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    I may be interested in the axle and intermediate upgrade.

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    Two good ideas Jared, do you know the thread size of the the high pressure side outlet off the rack?

    You need check and make sure you have the bosses tapped on thr back of the block in order to attach the bracket.

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    Two good ideas Jared, do you know the thread size of the the high pressure side outlet off the rack?

    You need check and make sure you have the bosses tapped on thr back of the block in order to attach the bracket.
    I have the bosses tapped from factory. One of the lines is M14 and one m16 on the rack. I can't remember which is which though.

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    The Evo rack is a lil different from the 8g if your getting the thread sizes from that. The Evo rack has a bango fitting on the high side and barb for the low side. Ill just have to pull the bango and measure it I just hate pulling those rack fittings cause there easy to strip, at least easy for me.

    Let me know if you want that axle and Ill get it boxed up.

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