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    Icon4 Bigger factory two pot brakes for the 8g and 5lug 7g

    Borrowed from DSMTUNERS

    http://www.dsmtuners.com/forums/arti...e-upgrade.html

    05/06 Outlander "BIGGer brake upgrade"
    There are several good threads on this topic, but I thought I would put this into a Tech Article with focus on weight and add some of my own photos.

    One of the problems with upgrading your brakes, is that such upgrade is usually accompanied with increase in weight. Some aftermarket brake kits, like TCE, will gave you big brakes with reduction in weight, but not everyone can afford it.

    So, until recently, “big DSM” brake upgrade was THE way to give yourself a bit more braking capability for budget conscious enthusiasts. Everyone knew that “big brakes” were heavier, but they just took it as inevitable.

    05/06 Outlander brakes emerged recently as a better/bigger upgrade, but I want to add an extra merit to this conversion: you get more brakes, for not much additional weight!

    To do this swap, you will need:
    05/06 Outlander caliper brackets MR307282 and two piston calipers (Outlander calipers use 2G style of brake lines, so 1G guys will ether have to use 93/94/GVR4 calipers with these brackets or do some creative plumbing, to adapt the lines)
    05/06 Outlander rotors (stock shields will have to be bent back)

    That is IT! No other parts or adaptors!

    I sourced my complete Outlander calipers at Car-Part.com--Used Auto Parts Market, most of these junk yards will ship parts for relatively low cost. And since you are already paying for shipping, find a place in the south, so that you get some rust free parts!

    As for rotors, there are dozens of sources to get them!

    Aside from being larger, Outlander rotors have different design and give you more rotor with relatively less weight! Here is weight sumary:




    As you can see, Outlander brakes give you extra 20mm over the “Big DSM” brakes, but your weight penalty is only 1.4lbs per side! That is the same increase in size as going from “Small DSM to Big DSM”!




    A few more comparison shot (Outlander/Big DSM/Small DSM):



    All done up:




    Other good threads on this topic:

    New brakes for the GSX (budget)
    http://www.dsmtuners.com/forums/driv...6mm-294mm.html

    Enjoy!


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    Great find! Would 17's clear?

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    The top of the line Outlanders came with 17's, base came with 16's.

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    Pretty cool, I was actually looking into this today.
    However was planning on going with the 01 Camaro Caliper and 370 Rotor.

    I wonder if a different caliper can be used with this rotor.
    The Camaro rotor is aluminum and is 45mm in length vs the "Big DSM" caliper 42.9 ( eclipsh pointed this out on dsmtuners link = http://www.dsmtuners.com/forums/hand...akes-bolt.html)

    Nice find DOHC!
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    What all is needed to fit this on a 8g?
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    Quote Originally Posted by oakrdrs187 View Post
    It dont smell or anything so F it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Redhaze View Post
    What all is needed to fit this on a 8g?
    Right here...

    Quote Originally Posted by DOHCstunr View Post
    To do this swap, you will need:
    05/06 Outlander caliper brackets MR307282 and two piston calipers (Outlander calipers use 2G style of brake lines)
    05/06 Outlander rotors (stock shields will have to be bent back)

    That is IT! No other parts or adaptors!
    And obviously the pads.

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    so id need to buy a 2g brake line. v6 calipers outlander bracket and of course rotors and pads sorry ima little slow lol. im only confused on which calipers i need
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    Quote Originally Posted by oakrdrs187 View Post
    It dont smell or anything so F it.

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    IIRC the 2G lines are same as 8G.

    The post referred to 1 and 2 G eclipse.

    You need both the calipers, brackets, pads, and rotors from the 05/06 Outlander

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    Alright thanks bossman
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    Quote Originally Posted by oakrdrs187 View Post
    It dont smell or anything so F it.

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    Wow this looks really interesting I might do it. Is there any difference in handling for this? Because I'm lost if it is or for aesthetics
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    Difference in handling? No.

    No normal person will need this. Upgraded pads/disks are all that are necessary, this is if you need more cooling capability.

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