<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Tearstone)</div><div class='quotemain'>I was faced with this quandry a few months ago when I had all the parts I needed to swap over to a 5 speed. Then I took a ride in another Turbo 3G that had a torque convertor installed and I totally sold everything to you all and invested in one of the torque convertors we have available. The more power you make in the realm of forced induction, the better having the automatic/spottronic becomes. I am laying the path for at least 500whp, and I don't think a 5 speed is going to be too friendly with that.</div>
How can you say that with confidence? You know the torque converter isnt the only thing that breaks in an auto tranny. How about the solenoids breaking due to all those hard engaged shifts that your new torque converter is doing? If you do your homework on this topic, our auto trannies are similar to that of the auto trannies found in a 2g eclipse minus the sport tronic for the 3g guys of course. Ask anyone making big power on a 2g, awd or fwd auto, it costs about $2500 to build a SOLID auto tranny. Thats not just a torque convertor. Thats upgraded solenoids, special solenoid valving, updated input shaft, etc.
You also know that you can build a 5 speed tranny for a lil cheaper then an auto, and have better gearing and driveability. You do know that you can send a 5 speed for a 3g off to TRE and they will build it with shot peened and cryo treated gears, double synchro's, LSD, etc.
I noticed you stated.......
"I totally sold everything to you all and invested in one of the torque convertors we have available"
........ refering to the ohh so great torque converter that YOU happen to carry for sale on YOUR website. Its like the the thread "which is better turbo kit or SDS kit" and having Ross post up, the SDS kit is much better, and you can buy it right here from me on my website.
If the torque converter is soo great then home come everyone with a fast 3g is running a 5 speed. and how come the people who tried getting the Level 10 tranny kit with a performance torque converter, all broke their trannies. Your not going to tell me that your torque converter is better then Level 10's, being as level 10 has been in the business of building performance trannies for over 15 years and has very very good built kits for other applications, but ours just doesnt seem to hold up. and you have had your torque converters for a few months and all of the sudden its the only way to go for big HP.
Also if you look at the really fast DSMs like John Shephard who is making over 1000whp and shifting at 10,000 RPMs Im pretty sure he is using a built 5 speed tranny. If auto's were soo great, why arent all the fast cars using them. I can see your point about auto trannies for like muscle cars but them trannies arent built like our FWD ones are, totally different ball game there. and in case you bring up the point of Brent Rau's DSM with an Auto tranny he doesnt count because he has a full tube frame car thats converted to RWD using a GM tranny, as well as that auto tranny on Big Len's old race 3g RWD eclipse
I may be coming off as an @$$HOLE, but my main purpose here is to seperate facts from hearsay and to make sure that the info your giving to the person who originally posted this thread isnt biased in a poor attempt to sell YOUR product.
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