sweet!! hey do you think you can post some picts with this......i can follow your direction but i dont trust my self without the fool-proof pix :)
thanks for this info man!
I searched, and didn't find this one anywhere, so for those who are intrested in this..here ya go:
First of all decide if you ever plan to go turbo. This will decide which 60mm TB you need to get your hands on. If you're staying N/A you should get a TB from a 1G 4g63 NT Eclipse '91/'92 and up (you have to look closely at the part, some of the earliest 4g63s had the IAC cast directly onto the TB making them useless for this project. If you don't see a seam between the TB and the IAC don't buy it!) These, like the 4g64 TB have a lip cast onto them allowing you to retain your factory intake set-up. They're also a LOT easier to find. If you ever plan on going turbo, you need a TB from a turbo Eclipse which are harder to find, but have a removable elbow to make routing of the turbo pressure piping possible. Either a 1G or 2G will work. Keep in mind this tutorial is for the N/A version. Some details might vary for turbo applications.
Now if you want to have minimal down-time it'd be wise to get a donor TB from a 4g64, but that's entirely optional, but highly recommended.
With both TBs on your work bench, use an impact driver to remove the screws from the bottom of the throttle bodies. DO NOT attempt to use an ordinary screwdriver. Out of the 10 that I've taken appart only 2 screws have succumbed to a mere screwdriver, while only 3 resisted the impact driver and had to be drilled. While you're here, clean both the 60mm TB and 4g64 IAC thoroughly. Feel free to through the TB into a parts washer to soak, but clean the IAC by hand--you don't want to mess up the delicate parts within. Your really only need to worry about the IAC passages proper (they'll be the two dirtiest ones)
This is where the only "modification" comes into play. Part of the coolant passage on the 60mm tb will have to be filled in. I use RTV for this since It's cheap, easy to use, and resistant to antifreeze. (it's also removable if you "oops" unlike JB Weld) In the center passage, fill the half that's on the same side as the throttle cable attaches to. Use the 4g64 IAC as a reference--you need to fill the side that water DOSEN'T need to be in. You need to fill it to just over the level of the gasket surface, remember it has to be water-tight. I do 2-3 light applications with at least 12 hours in between. Just be sure to give it plenty of time to set-up. Also the center bolt hole on the 4g64 IAC needs to be filled with RTV as well.
I STRONGLY suggest replacing the TB/IAC gasket at this time It's Mitsu PN# MD611406 and they're $2.86 from MitsubishiParts.net Or approximately double that from your local dealer. It's still cheap insurance against coolant getting sucked into your engine or your idle being screwy from air slipping by.
If the original screws aren't too messed up, you can re-use them. I use new SS screws and lock washers but I'm just thorough like that. You need one 3/4" and two 2 1/4" if you're using new ones. Now with the center gasket in place, bolt up the IAC with the three holes that line up (yes, they're all on one side, but it seems like it's plenty...mine hasn't leaked in 40K miles so I'm fairly confident. Now, blow through one of the coolant bypass hoses while holding your finger over the other one. If you hear excaping, remove the IAC and lay on another thin coat of RTV to seal off the coolant passage.
The 4g64 TPS will have to be transfered to the 60mm TB as the Galant has no wiring for an external closed throttle switch, it's built into the TB. Be sure you use a wrench on these bolts, again a screwdriver strips out the soft metal easily.
At this point the TB is done! But it still has to be installed which leads to some new interesting problems.
The intake manifold now should be enlarged to match the new 60mm TB (you have the appropriate gasket...RIGHT?!?!) The exact process is detailed elsewhere, but it's pretty straightforeward. Also, the three vacuum nipples on the top of the TB now face the opposite direction. It's a fairly simple matter of re-routing them to the other side and remove that odd routing device from the Intake manifold since it's no longer needed. Now just bolt it up, make sure everything is reconnected and try to start the car. The TPS and BISS will have to be adjusted. You can try to do this yourself, but the dealer can do it much more easily. Slip a tech a $20 and it'll take him 10 minutes with the Mitsu scan tool, versus over an hour with a volt meter and screwdriver in your driveway.
Now enjoy improved throttle response, mid range punch and top end power. This is one mod that really is pretty much a free lunch in that there's really no downside...well except it makes off-idle response a bit jumpy. You'll get used to that in no time though and you'll recall how "sluggish" the car was off the line before.
Staying busy is important. After all, idle hands spend time at the genitles.
sweet!! hey do you think you can post some picts with this......i can follow your direction but i dont trust my self without the fool-proof pix :)
thanks for this info man!
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6-bolt jdm (GVR4)
16G turbo
3inch turbo back(flowmasters)
510cc
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why cant u just wire in the connector for the 1g iac and use it
wouldnt this work
iac swap diagram
Originally Posted by THE-G
Because the Galant unit is a better design. Otherwise, yes you could wire up the 1G unit.
Staying busy is important. After all, idle hands spend time at the genitles.
good writeup
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well i wired up the 1g iac motor and not only was it easier it works quite well i still have a cel on but i think that has to do with my maf sensor but as far as the 1 g iac goes......works good
Hmm i didnt have any luck using the 7g IAC with a 1g TB. It worked fine for awhile but eventually the IAC died(just a few months). I blocked the correct passages in the TB so I know that wasnt the cause. I think it would just be a lot easire to use a 1g IAC, its just a few wires.
7g for life!
good writeup, pretty much how i did my TB swap
would i need to adjust the idle on the 1G throttle body or should it be set correctly already? because it idles really low and i was wondering if it had something to do with the iac or just the biss screw
Biss screw. I dont think the 96-98s had a ground in the engine bay for idle adjustment like the 1g Eclipse had. I know the 2g doesnt have it.
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well the 7g tb has a biss screw so there has to be a way to set the idle
so anybody got pics yet??
Your 1g TB doesnt have a BISS screw? It should.Originally Posted by THE-G
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no my 1g and my 7g TB have a BISS screw
Then whats the problem? Just use the BISS screw to adjust the base idle ;)
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i dont have to ground nething in the engine bay or sumthin like that
I dont think there is a connector to ground on a 98. At least I couldnt find one on mine. My old 1g had one, but I dont think the OBDII cars have them.
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theres a ground wire for timing adjust up to 96 galants if thats what ur refering to. it sets base timing while u adjust it. does it do the same for idle?
brown plug center left of firewall like the g63 or 64dohc.
So I got one from a TSi curious it has four vacuum nipples on top any info can I just block one??
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so I picked up a turbo 1g throttle body and noticed it had 4 nipples for vacuum instead
of 3
so here it is
here are the nipples
I assume that the fourth nipple can be used for the wastegate?
any info would be great
also the so often mentioned biss screw is this right
and could someone explain what biss stands for
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