4g63t / AWD 7g Build

[eclipsh]

Rating the difficulty... Have you ever pulled an engine/transmission before? Ever made your own parts? About that hard ;) Mechanically it wasn't bad. Electrically... If I were to try this again I'd probably go with an OBDII car and use the whole 2g turbo front harness with a flashable ECU (late 2g ECU or Evo). It'd save a ton of work.

More pictures? What would you like? The car is up on stands so I can get to everything right now.

Speaking of that DSM pixie dust, I also had to repalce the slave cylinder this fall. Master should be next to go.

I'll try to get some engine bay pics up this weekend I've been working on cleaning up the harness over the fall too. I moved the battery into the trunk.



That little gray door has a breaker behind it on the positive cable. When I get around to doing my fuel pump rewire it'll be a breeze :)

Here's a shot of my 245 summer tire(s) which are now tucked away under my garage stairs. Had to put the snows on mid October.

[DOHCstunr]

245's eh? man i want.
what wheels are those on?
do they stick out from the wheel well at all?

[phizzalot]

Can we get a pic of the gauge cluster? Iam not sure if you have the 2g eclipse cluster modded to fit or not?

Also how is the rear subframe mounts holding up? Iam just curious why some would go with those solid aluminum ones off of ebay...

[Galant306m]

Can we get a pic of the gauge cluster? Iam not sure if you have the 2g eclipse cluster modded to fit or not?

Also how is the rear subframe mounts holding up? Iam just curious why some would go with those solid aluminum ones off of ebay...

The solid aluminum subframe mounts help A LOT, i know all of the SHO guys run them with the poly motor mount just keeps everything in place better then the shitty rubber ones, and you dont have to worry about your subframe mounts going bad (as much) with the aluminum ones. I think they just help with wheel hop but i might be wrong.

[eclipsh]

The 245 tires are on Evo 8 wheels. They barely tuck and with the 7" springs set as high as they go on my perches I still get occasional rubbing in the rear right where the top of the rear bumper bolts to the unibody. I'm planning on buying 9" hypercoil springs when my budget allows so I can set my ride height a little higher to avoid rubbing and get a little more clearance for curbs etc.

The gauge cluster is a stock Galant cluster just using the electronics for the 2g DSM tach so it recognizes the coilpack signal. I'm using the Galant faceplate because it fit. It does read correctly with the homologation. Unfortunately all this means I don't have an oil pressure gauge, just a dummy light but the wiring isn't there for the gauge anyway. I might run something for it in the future. I still need to find another way to mount my digital displays for boost etc. since the tach is now in the location they once used.

No issues with the rear subframe so far. Since this is my D/D I don't plan on putting too much metal in the bushings.

[skrap]

I have pulled a motor and trans before.. I havent made my own parts yet but Im sure I could figure it out... I know how to weld and do exhausts and shit. Also I am currently rebuilding my sohc 4g64 motor. That is going to be my test for myself. If I can sucessfully rebuild the motor with no problems then I will start collecting parts to tackle this project. Have you ever driven an awd eclipse/talon? If so do you think the galant is worht doing this. I mean is there more of a benificial output from the G versus the awd eclipses? I know that it will make the G heavier. I just want to know that this thing is going to be a beast before I go and put all of the hard work and effort in... I know its your DD but you gota be playing with it every now and then...

[eclipsh]

I owned a 90 Talon AWD for eight years and was constantly modifying it. I never spent much time driving a 2g, just the time I drove my donor car until I started ripping it apart (not much).

Is it worth it? The body on the Galant seems to flex more than my 1g did. The Galants' suspension has much better road manners. In the end it'd be hard to say which would outperfomr the other.

I did this because I wanted a 4-door AWD DSM and don't have the money to buy/mod an Evo. If I did I probalby wouldn't have built this. My wife and I have our first baby due at the end of January. Keeping my 2-door didn't make sense. It also didn't have enough headroom for my 6'4" self.

As far as performance 2g vs 7g awd, the only real difference should be wheel base and possibly rigidity. They weigh in about the same (3100 lbs), have the same suspension and same drivetrain. The 7g won't turn as sharp but will have better straight-line stability (longer wheel base).

If 4 doors don't matter, I'd say just get the 1g/2g DSM and be done with it.

[Shadow19]

I owned a 90 Talon AWD for eight years and was constantly modifying it. I never spent much time driving a 2g, just the time I drove my donor car until I started ripping it apart (not much).

Is it worth it? The body on the Galant seems to flex more than my 1g did. The Galants' suspension has much better road manners. In the end it'd be hard to say which would outperfomr the other.

I did this because I wanted a 4-door AWD DSM and don't have the money to buy/mod an Evo. If I did I probalby wouldn't have built this. My wife and I have our first baby due at the end of January. Keeping my 2-door didn't make sense. It also didn't have enough headroom for my 6'4" self.

As far as performance 2g vs 7g awd, the only real difference should be wheel base and possibly rigidity. They weigh in about the same (3100 lbs), have the same suspension and same drivetrain. The 7g won't turn as sharp but will have better straight-line stability (longer wheel base).

If 4 doors don't matter, I'd say just get the 1g/2g DSM and be done with it.

Not everyone owns a 7g AWD ;-)... Who would expect to roll up on a 4 door galant and get their ass handed to them? NOBODY! Who would roll up on a eclipse and expect to get their ass handed to them? Alot more than nobody! LOL.. Anyways.. I wouldnt trade my 7g for a 2g period. I HATE a 2g. Im so crunched up in my g/f's 2g turbo when i drive it its not funny. My hip literally gets a cramp and it hurts like a bitch and im only 6'1''... Besides. If i go for a 2 door hatch id want one a HELL of alot lighter than a 2g or 1g. And since honda is the only option for lightweight hatch its not gonna happen.

[remarque]

The 3g Mirage and Dodge colt are light weight and both come as a hatch, dont tell me you forgot about those. Plus the 4g63 is a direct swap.

[eclipsh]

Well I've been tinkering with the car some more over my winter break from school. I picked up a beat up 7gb front cover and filler panel for $10 at the you-pull as a test piece. I've cut into it and added a few things as you can see below. It is ugly as sin right now but I think the design works. I just need a new cover & filler panel to do it up right (anyone got a spare?).







I'll fill the upper half with the same expanded steel mesh when I get a chance. I'm thinking I'll paint both of them an aluminum color or chrome to match the trim around the windows and my wheels.

I also found a nice new home for my LED Display cluster and added a dimmer control on the face.





I relocated the hazard and defroster switches to the blank areas next to the cruise control. It took a little customizing as they aren't the same size but I got them to work.


Here is the latest and greatest on my engine bay. You can see where I added the temp switch on top of the t-stat housing.



Any thoughts on the bumper cover? I'm not sold on the bolts going through the face. I'd like to make it cleaner but I don't know how else I can mount the mesh sturdily.

Oh, I've also got a new clutch master cylinder going in today. It went out as expected. Should have put it in with the new slave and saved some hassle. I also picked up an Evo 9 fuel pump for $30 shipped that should be here soon. I'll do my fuel pump rewire when it goes in. Then I can crank the boost up and retune for 20psi instead of the 12 I'm running now. Should be lots of fun!

[Galanttuner10]

i demand videos at once!!!!! great work keep it up

[Galant306m]

thats display is awesome you have afr and what are the other two?

[Shadow19]

thats display is awesome you have afr and what are the other two?

x2. That is pretty bad ass dude. Think you can make a tut?

[Stewi]

I am so surprised I hav never noticed this thread. I just tore thru the whole thread and I must say great work man. I know you must be extremely happy and at the same time excited that this all worked out. Congrats on your creation, best of luck.

[eclipsh]

Thanks :) The displays are (left to right) boost (positive pressure only), EGT (needs a probe and wiring), and of course the AFR. They are all being fed by my JAW unit.

To make it I took a sheet of bass wood, shaped it to fit the opening, cut the holes out for the displays, mounted them with hot glue and added the potentiometer for adjusting brightness. The plastic sheeting is some stuff I picked up at the hardware store.

[Shadow19]

Thanks :) The displays are (left to right) boost (positive pressure only), EGT (needs a probe and wiring), and of course the AFR. They are all being fed by my JAW unit.

To make it I took a sheet of bass wood, shaped it to fit the opening, cut the holes out for the displays, mounted them with hot glue and added the potentiometer for adjusting brightness. The plastic sheeting is some stuff I picked up at the hardware store.

That is an awesome job. Hell its an awesome job on the whole entire car.

[eclipsh]

So any thoughts on the front bumper cover?

[Shadow19]

So any thoughts on the front bumper cover?

Yea... TBH i dont like it... the grilles between the headlights need to stay and u need to fiberglass the mesh in the front to get rid of the bolts. This is kind of hard to explain but this is what they used when they sent my body kit that had spots for mesh. Its damn near the same flimsy metal shit thats used in the thin paper binder things. You know where you have to fold the tabs back and shit.. .if you can find soemthing like that and mount it behind the bumper then just use your skills to make it work that way it would look better.

[Galant306m]

Thanks :) The displays are (left to right) boost (positive pressure only), EGT (needs a probe and wiring), and of course the AFR. They are all being fed by my JAW unit.

To make it I took a sheet of bass wood, shaped it to fit the opening, cut the holes out for the displays, mounted them with hot glue and added the potentiometer for adjusting brightness. The plastic sheeting is some stuff I picked up at the hardware store.

i figured it was those three but when i seen the egt one at like 4800 im like hmm thats not egt and figured if the other one was boost i would be reading negative lol so i got all confused. Looks awesome though.

Also i agree with stewi you did some awesome work now we just need to see some vids of some awd launching.

[seth98esT]

The gauge cluster is a stock Galant cluster just using the electronics for the 2g DSM tach so it recognizes the coilpack signal. I'm using the Galant faceplate because it fit. It does read correctly with the homologation. Unfortunately all this means I don't have an oil pressure gauge, just a dummy light but the wiring isn't there for the gauge anyway. I might run something for it in the future. I still need to find another way to mount my digital displays for boost etc. since the tach is now in the location they once used.

This is genius, why didn't I think of doing that!